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post #21 of 95
7/8/07 at 6:19am
Yeah, Procooling has some of WCings major players, from retail to custom built.
While WB designs are infinite, quality performers are few and usually variants
of basic construct. The links above are the best source of WB theory, design
and production..........the holy grail of WB wizardry.
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post #22 of 95
7/8/07 at 6:22am
Petra opens up all the blocks he sells for pics

http://www.petrastechshop.com/cpuwaterblocks.html
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post #23 of 95
7/8/07 at 6:26am
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Here's a good all-around link for block design - http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=67211

And here ( you'll need to register to see the images ) - http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=9263
When did procooling stop being active? I have been through the site a few times but haven't seen any recent posts.

That design is machineable, it would just take a long time with many many separate cuts with lots of repositioning of the piece. I tried rushing through a design last week and broke one of my endmills, the intricate designs just take a lot of patience without a CNC. Maybe ill try your design after i get a new vise(my rotating vise is broken at the moment but should be getting a new one in a few weeks).

I am working on a simple fin desgn right now. Its my first block so right now im just trying to get more comfortable with the mill. I'm making it out of aluminium because its way cheaper than copper, theres no sense practicing on a $20 piece when I can practice on a $3 dollar one. After i test the fin design i was going to drill divets throughout the channels and see how that affects preformance. I am also going to try different top designs (i.e. 1in 1out, 1in 2out, etc),
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post #24 of 95
7/8/07 at 6:36am
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love these pics:
http://www.zfz.com/pictures/temp/collection1.jpg
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/superglide/IMG_5416%20(Medium).JPG

ive been playing with the thought of more than 2 out-barbs myself.
even with multiple in-barbs. (with the "true v8" as a joke)

some feedback now plz?
in the meantime i'll play around in P'shop with this stuff in mind.

EDIT: i also noticed now that often also a third layer is used.
EDIT2: how much space do most mobo's used here have around the socket? the pic i used in the first is from a triker extreme, if i remember correctly, but not all board have that much space. any indication of what i have to my disposal, and where i need to stop?
the ASUS P5B DLX for example has some capacitor-tingeys right next to the socket.
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post #25 of 95
7/8/07 at 8:13am
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heres what i made so far...
block

midlayer

top


note that the green part is milled out from the top to half-way the plate, the part still in there has small holes in it.
the "floating" blue part is glued to the red one

EDIT: forgot top-pic
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post #26 of 95
7/8/07 at 7:37pm
do you think the "extra" parts of the X in your design above would be necessary? It might be good to direct some of the water over those areas if they are to cool effectively.
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post #27 of 95
7/8/07 at 8:40pm
Got an idea...not sure how well it would work since i chose logic over physics ...here is what i have in mind: take a basic waterblock and divide it in two with some kind of watertight, solid divider so that you are able to run two complete and independent watercooling systems through the waterblock at the same time...think of this in the same way you would think of dual-channel ram

this will at least double the amount of independent agitation going on in the waterblock as well as the pressure and velocity of the liquid going through the block (maybe if we're lucky it'll quadruple cause of some square rule haha that would make this idea really work)...wait...i think agitation might quadruple if u divide ur waterblock in half...dunno...need somebody to test it!

now i also know that having two watercooling systems in a pc takes up alot of room...but if the cooling effectiveness by chance more than doubles 4 my idea, then the alloted watercooling equipment necessary will be less than what u would need in a single setup! and what the hell...overclockers like us go to crazy lengths anyways!

sry about all the smilies but i hope someone considers my idea!
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post #28 of 95
7/8/07 at 8:42pm


mine wins, lawd.
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post #29 of 95
7/9/07 at 12:57am
Just look at the physics of it. Basically you want to maximize the flow rate of the heat through the metal and maximize the absorption of the heat by the water. How do you do this, well there are tons of ways. Make the waterblock as thin as possible, create turbulence, get a good thermal conductive material, ect.

When I start at ERAU in the fall, I am going to see if I can use their super computer to run a CFD model of a perfect waterblock. Using the CFD (Computational Fluid Dynamics) I could probably design a perfect waterblock (from a physics stand point). Then if I am super lucky I could use their $5 million CNC machine to make it.
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post #30 of 95
7/9/07 at 1:18am
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do you think the "extra" parts of the X in your design above would be necessary? It might be good to direct some of the water over those areas if they are to cool effectively.
the Xdesign makes sure the water goes all the way to the edges, taking as much heat as possible.

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Got an idea...not sure how well it would work since i chose logic over physics ...here is what i have in mind: take a basic waterblock and divide it in two with some kind of watertight, solid divider so that you are able to run two complete and independent watercooling systems through the waterblock at the same time...think of this in the same way you would think of dual-channel ram

this will at least double the amount of independent agitation going on in the waterblock as well as the pressure and velocity of the liquid going through the block (maybe if we're lucky it'll quadruple cause of some square rule haha that would make this idea really work)...wait...i think agitation might quadruple if u divide ur waterblock in half...dunno...need somebody to test it!

now i also know that having two watercooling systems in a pc takes up alot of room...but if the cooling effectiveness by chance more than doubles 4 my idea, then the alloted watercooling equipment necessary will be less than what u would need in a single setup! and what the hell...overclockers like us go to crazy lengths anyways!

sry about all the smilies but i hope someone considers my idea!
ive been playing with the thought, and i have several WBs drawn with that idea in mind, but not many people would want to pay another 200 bucks for a second loop, just to shave off a few degrees. were already talking about single C's here.

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mine wins, lawd.
that looks so damn wicked, if it werent for the AMD plate. the barbs arent placed in an optimal position, but it does look sweet.

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Just look at the physics of it. Basically you want to maximize the flow rate of the heat through the metal and maximize the absorption of the heat by the water. How do you do this, well there are tons of ways. Make the waterblock as thin as possible, create turbulence, get a good thermal conductive material, ect.

When I start at ERAU in the fall, I am going to see if I can use their super computer to run a CFD model of a perfect waterblock. Using the CFD (Computational Fluid Dynamics) I could probably design a perfect waterblock (from a physics stand point). Then if I am super lucky I could use their $5 million CNC machine to make it.
ROFL. thats awesome.
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