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Importance of Memory in Overclocking.. PLS Help

post #1 of 6
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Ok... I am getting really confused.... OC'ers are trying to push the chips to the limits and squeeze until the last drop of juice come off.... So, the consept is pushing the chips further ahead from their factory limits.

I also know enough that the perfomance of the system is only as good as the weakest/slowest component. Here is my paradox :

I have a E6600 which I overclocked to 3.4GHz and I am also having 4 dims of 1Gig OCZ's SLI Ready PC2-8500 RAM DDR2-1066MHz at 5-5-5-15 2T timings.

Almost all overclocking guides I had read was basically telling to increase the FSB of the CPU and at the same time reduce the memory's speed. This never made sense to me because if you are cutting back on the memory's speed, it would become a bottleneck and no matter how fast the CPU runs it will not be performing any good because of memory's lacking of ability to process the info as fast as that of CPU.

So, what is the deal?...

When I get my ram running at stock timings and CPU at 3.4GHz, I use Orthos to test BOTH CPU and the RAM and it freezes the whole thing in less than a minute. I am almost certain that this is happening because of the ram because when I test JUST the CPU everything goes smoothly.

Should I get my memory running around 800MHz even thought it is capable of running at 1066MHz when the CPU is running at 3.4GHZ?

Please help thanks,
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post #2 of 6
Sorry I cant help, but free bump for you.
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post #3 of 6
What vcore are you set to and what are the volts set to on the RAM.
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I have 1.35V on Vcore and 2.1V set on the ram. When i use Orthos to test both memory and CPU, it freezes n me about half an hr later. I know it is coming from the memory.. any idea of how I could fix it?

thanks,
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post #5 of 6
Use an even balance between the two like a 1:1 ratio

My OC used to be 1500:750 (1:1) With the internal clock being 375 (Intels are quad-pumped per FSB)

Some people try other ratios like 1:2 (Which is hard as hell) or 2:3 or 4:5.

In terms of timings theres always debate between tighter timings or higher bandwidth hehe
    
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post #6 of 6
You're rig is basically unstable now. Try to increase Vcore so the CPU gets more voltage. That might stabilize your rig. Otherwise, run the RAM at stock settings and see what happens. Stock as in stock speed, timings and voltage.
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