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so in my adventures in water cooling, i have come upon a question....
besides using distilled water and the coolents you can buy from newegg.com and xoxide.com, anybody else have any good ideas? im trying to see waht i can use in order to get my temps down alitle. i mean granted im only maxing out at 43 degrees and thats my socket 939 opty 175 over clocked to 2.5. after about 8 hours of gaming and DVD burning at the same timer its only hit 44 once and then drops down so temps arent a problem, but i jsut need ideas for better cooling thats all.

i was thinking the anti-freeze you put inside your car, but not shure how well hat will work...please let me know what you guys think or if you have any good ideas of your own. thanks
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Anything you add to water will lower it's ability to properly remove heat.

Antifreeze is good because it protects from elctrolysis. Anything over 15% is probably too much.
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From what i've heard..... Distilled water works the best. It isn't conductive, so the only downside to it is that it could permit algae to grow in it.

You can try using antifreeze/water mixture (1 part antifreeze to 9 parts water is typically what people use), but like I said, I know I've read posts in this forum stating that you can't do thermally better than water.
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ok well then what about if i jsut use distilled water, what can i add to it to prevent algae from growing and clogging it up? i use typical solution's and coolents but heard distilled is best. please what can i buy to prevent growth in tubes....

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My WC system is all copper/brass, so I run 100% distilled water w/ a 1/4tsp of a biocide called Binox.
Glycol/Anti-freeze make a good anti-corrosive if you run some mixed metals, but my 165 Opty/e6600
run cooler idle/loads @ lower deltas with my current elixir.

Try anti-freeze mixes of 2%, 5%, 10% and see what you think, that's what I started with.

Here's what Ira-K uses for biocide.
  
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Anything you add to water will lower it's ability to properly remove heat.
incorrect...

anything that breaks down the surface tension will help water make better contact with the surfaces... and allow it to work better... This is why products like Redline Water Wetter exist...

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Antifreeze is good because it protects from elctrolysis. Anything over 15% is probably too much.
if you dilute anti-freeze too much you lose the protection that it offers... there are also different types of anti-freeze, and you should match your coolant to the materials in your loop... this is why you see 50/50 pre-mixed anti-freeze and no other mix ratios...


I guess i'm going to have to write a 10 page essay on coolants...
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coolant DOES NOT help the thermal capacity of water, sure the break down of it will help in the exposed surface area, allowing for more conductivity of the heat to pass into the liquid but overall with the smaller thermal load capacity it is given when mixed with the water the overall gain is negligible, I suggest distilled water, and some PT_Nuke... changing it once every three to four months and watch for algae growth...

And off topic if you want better temps have you thought of a TEC?
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coolant DOES NOT help the thermal capacity of water, sure the break down of it will help in the exposed surface area, allowing for more conductivity of the heat to pass into the liquid but overall with the smaller thermal load capacity it is given when mixed with the water the overall gain is negligible, I suggest distilled water, and some PT_Nuke... changing it once every three to four months and watch for algae growth...

And off topic if you want better temps have you thought of a TEC?
you just said it "DOES NOT help" then you explained that it does...

why would i need to watch for algae growth if my coolant didn't allow the growth of algae... and also prevented corrosion?

Water does not cool best. But water with a surfactant is an excellent coolant... but provides no protection against corrosion and doesn't act as a biocide...
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you just said it "DOES NOT help" then you explained that it does...

why would i need to watch for algae growth if my coolant didn't allow the growth of algae... and also prevented corrosion?
Maybe you should learn to read...

I said it doesn't help, it lowers the thermal capacity of the water resulting in less heat movement, resulting in higher temps. But if you want more here it comes... with the added viscosity you also loose flow rate, the acidic balance of coolants, even as diluted as they are has been shown to eat away at tubing, which over time leads to many risks, including PVC string like substances being caught in impellers, which cuts the entire system...
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Yeah you don't want to use over 5-15% anti-freeze in your loop..Any more will get your coolant to viscous and hurt temp's..We only use it as an anti-corrosive additive and pump lube...It will help keep the nasties from growing in your loop to...Straight distilled water is the best with as few additives as possible...


I'll leave you my cleaning PDF it has my coolant recipe in it....

EDIT: Forgot the PDF...
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