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Quality work?.... Vista? HAHAHA....


Good one. Congrats, MS, you've made XP prettier and buggy again... PLUS gave it a side bonus of DRM enforcement to make sure that all my hardware will cost more too. Bang up job. (And don't even start telling me to use it before making judgments. I already have)
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The "official" reason is because of expansion/contraction of the ball-soldered contact points on the gpu... apparently the ROHS lead-free solder they are required to use is not as able to take heat cycles as the softer lead type. Some have actually successfully repaired their units with a heat gun.

The new heatsink reduces the max operating temp thereby reducing the expansion and contraction during on/off cycles. A patch at best.

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Quality work?.... Vista? HAHAHA....


Good one. Congrats, MS, you've made XP prettier and buggy again... PLUS gave it a side bonus of DRM enforcement to make sure that all my hardware will cost more too. Bang up job. (And don't even start telling me to use it before making judgments. I already have)
Just go ahead and go back to win 95 already then.

Many others including myself have had absolutely no problem with it. In fact I like it better than XP.
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The "official" reason is because of expansion/contraction of the ball-soldered contact points on the gpu... apparently the ROHS lead-free solder they are required to use is not as able to take heat cycles as the softer lead type. Some have actually successfully repaired their units with a heat gun.

The new heatsink reduces the max operating temp thereby reducing the expansion and contraction during on/off cycles. A patch at best.



Just go ahead and go back to win 95 already then.

Many others including myself have had absolutely no problem with it. In fact I like it better than XP.
Good old RHoS! This is a common problem with the non-lead solder.... tin whiskers.
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Good old RHoS! This is a common problem with the non-lead solder.... tin whiskers.
Yeah, if you want to talk about making hardware more expensive... Vista's DRM is a cute little bunny rabbit compared to this hazardous substances hullabaloo. I agree with it to a point just like I agree with DRM to a point... but China keeps pumping black smoke into the air either way.
post #15 of 24
I think that they not only made the warrenty longer to take care of the people that bought there game system but to fix this problem here and now, and get it out of the way,if the fix it now later on down the road they will not get so many people calling in and asking to get it fixed and they will have saved more money then they would have just leaving to as is.The 360 is a great system and there is no need to bash M$ for this,Atleast when you by the 360 you get realy cutting edge tech and all the good and bad that come with it.
    
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they should of added a small fan to the GPU heatsink
I don't know how many of you have a 360, and even then how many of you that do have taken them apart, but the DVD drive sits almost directly on top of the GPU heatsink, unless the fan was like 5mm thick then there isn't room for one.

And even then it would be right against the DVD drive and wouldn't have room to move air.
    
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Yeah, if you want to talk about making hardware more expensive... Vista's DRM is a cute little bunny rabbit compared to this hazardous substances hullabaloo. I agree with it to a point just like I agree with DRM to a point... but China keeps pumping black smoke into the air either way.
Soooo, you're going on the logic that just because others do it, it's alright if you do it too?

By that logic I should be able to walk into your house and murder you in your sleep and it's alright.... because others do it too.
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Soooo, you're going on the logic that just because others do it, it's alright if you do it too?

By that logic I should be able to walk into your house and murder you in your sleep and it's alright.... because others do it too.
You totally missed my point... which was that ROHS is about as effective at getting to the root of the problem as DRM is, if not even less so.

China keeps pummping black smoke into air either way, and pirates keep pirating regardless of DRM's presence. I never implied that we should do away with either. My point was that if you are complaining about the cost of hardware DRM is pretty darned low on the list of things that influence hardware prices.
post #19 of 24
ROHS has a point, if you don't see it, you need to take a look at what lead poisoning does to people and how fish in pristine Canada are currently pumped with enough contaminants to be unhealthy to eat.(Not that ROHS will directly contribute to fixing that specifically I'm just pointing out the biomagnification principle.)

The anti-consumer DRM scheme that has so far done nothing but force encryption to be built into every component of the system in order for it to function for little more than a play at content control by MS. Essentially they have a beautiful way of excluding people completely who don't want to play along with their little scheme to be left out in the cold with out a market. It's essentially extortion. Consumers are punished with the ridiculous overhead and loss of function of their SPDIF port if they want to watch any content.

I don't know, but I also suspect a few 'fees' charged by MS to certify hardware for Vista as well.

It's not the magnitude of the increase Iandh, it's the principle of paying more for a BS system in an OS that isn't that good in the first place. And I have to pay it whether I get Vista or not, because if I want an 8 series or 2900 card for my DX9 apps I still have to pay more for this POS encryption engineering and production that won't even be used, and won't serve me any beneficial function.

I could go on for days... I'll stop.
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post #20 of 24
Bump?

That's really cool I'm going to wait to get my second () Xbox 360 until, at least, November so that the 4th model comes out and so that these "newly repaired" models are on the shelves not 360's from 2006 that still have problems.

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