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I've been running a 3800+ (~2.8 ghz) single core for a while now but after I got vista, things just seem a little sluggy. All my hardware is rated above 5 except my CPU also which kind of bothers me too... Any ways, after I heard about the newest price drop I couldn't pass up this opportunity to upgrade. I've heard people have been getting 3600+ Brisbanes up around the 2.8 area. I can afford to get the 4800+ but I'm just wondering if that will over clock as much:

3600+: 1.9 - 2.8
4800+: 2.5 - 3.4?

Is there some kind of cap? Is it worth buying a 4800+ or will it overclock to about the same. Thanks!
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Basically it'll overclock the same, seeing as it's all architecture based, but if you get an exact stepping, you might be lucky for the higher-end CPU to actually clock higher. We've all seen this before, but it's really not worth it.
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Originally Posted by stycho View Post
I've been running a 3800+ (~2.8 ghz) single core for a while now but after I got vista, things just seem a little sluggy. All my hardware is rated above 5 except my CPU also which kind of bothers me too... Any ways, after I heard about the newest price drop I couldn't pass up this opportunity to upgrade. I've heard people have been getting 3600+ Brisbanes up around the 2.8 area. I can afford to get the 4800+ but I'm just wondering if that will over clock as much:

3600+: 1.9 - 2.8
4800+: 2.5 - 3.4?

Is there some kind of cap? Is it worth buying a 4800+ or will it overclock to about the same. Thanks!
you won't ever hit 3.4 with a 4800 if your lucky you'll hit 3.0-1
my FX-55 maxes at 3.0Ghz
that is unless your using LN2 or Phase Change
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There is no cap per-se, but no K8 can OC (far) beyond 3.0GHz without water cooling at least.
The 3600 x2 seems to be able to get to 3GHz, but more often it's around 2.7 - 2.8stable. I had my cpu at 3GHz, but there's no way to stabilize it that high. Considering the small difference between a 3600 x2 and a 4000 x2, I would pick the latter. In my opinion it should stabilize with less voltage at the same OCed speed as there is less stress on the memory controller.

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normally yes. but the x2 3600 is an exception. it oc's like crazy. same as all the other higher x2s. all amd's will top out ~3.0, unless its the 6000 which will go to maybe 3.2
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there was an overclock thread on the 6000+ not too long ago and a guy there had a 3.4ghz overclock on his sig ( i know i had to take a double take), but yes, i'd go with the 3600+, in 1 day i will have bought one also for my new rig.
    
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Well... the higher stock speed chip you buy, the better chance you have of OCing the chip higher.... its at least guaranteed that youll have a higher stock speed.
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Well... the higher stock speed chip you buy, the better chance you have of OCing the chip higher.... its at least guaranteed that youll have a higher stock speed.
no

So your saying that the AMD x2 6000 and x2 3600 can overclock the same amount..

ahh NO
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normally yes. but the x2 3600 is an exception. it oc's like crazy. same as all the other higher x2s. all amd's will top out ~3.0, unless its the 6000 which will go to maybe 3.2
not necessarily. My X2 4200+ will only top of stable at 2.76ghz
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not necessarily. My X2 4200+ will only top of stable at 2.76ghz
My 4200+ will top out at 2.5ghz. It really depends on the stepping, the core, and even your motherboard. IMHO, a 4800+ will have a higher chance of getting a higher clock speed compared to the 3600+.
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