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I have 1x BFG 7800GT OC PCI-e 256MB card, and I was looking for a second one to go SLI with my system. Unfortunatly these cards seem to be crazy hard to find at a price thats not completely insane...

I got an offer from someone for my card. He has 2x 3D Fuzion Geforce 7800GT's and says he will trade one for one with my GT OC, and I buy the second one.

I know the 3DFuzion card is probably a bit cheaper, and I would be giving more than revieving for the one card...but are 3DFuzion cards any good? I have never heard of the brand to be honest, and can't find any good reviews on thier 7800GT. Plus I really do like the lifetime warrentee BFG gives...

Would it be worth it to get the 2 3D Fuzion cards instead of hunting down a second 7800GT OC?

Any input would be appreciated here.

PS: If anyone has a BFG 7800GT OC 256MB PCI-e card for sale...leme know!1!!!1!!!
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3DFuzion is BFG without the lifetime warranty and technical support:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_Fuzion
    
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I thought they worked that out of SLI that the two card had to be exactly the same. I mean the OC still has the same GPU right? If you clocked them the same it might work...but I don't think my advice is very sound as I've never done SLI.

As for 3D Fuzion I have an old 5500 from them. Work fine. I think they are just another one of those companies that takes the cheapest, lowest quality GPU and memory that were able to squeeze by quality control at the fab and make hardware out of it. Kind of like foxcon and ECS for mother boards. I am sure they will work just fine...just don't expect them to OC all that well.

And by the way...ever thought about selling the 7800GT and just getting a X1950Pro or 7950? I went from a 7800GT to 1950pro and it was a definate upgrade. I just sold that 7800GT a month and a half ago for $150 on ebay to some one is Austrailia. Just a thought...
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a 3d fuzion will work with your bfg...
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I get 75-200 FPS in every game I play in the settings I want to play in, I don't need a 7950 or 1950.

I just thought I might as well get a second card anyway, because whats the point of having a A8N32 SLi Deluxe if I ain't usin it?


Performance-wise will I see a difference in 3D Fuzion Vs BFG if set to same Clockspeeds?
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Performance-wise will I see a difference in 3D Fuzion Vs BFG if set to same Clockspeeds?
No reason why you should, BFG and 3DF are in essence the same, aside from the warranty and tech support coverage.
    
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Ok I went ahead and bought the card..put it in...gave it power and slapped on that SLI bridge I've been waiting so long to open from it's little plastic bag.

There is no difference whatsoever. With 1 card in CS:S Video Stress Test, 159.89FPS AVG, with 2 in SLI, 158.62.

I am pretty sure I know why this happened, both the cards are slightly different frequencies. One is a GT OC and one is a GT. The only difference I noticed between the 2 cards physially is the heatsink, which is identical except for the color/images on the thing.

How do I get into the second 7800 to overclock it to the right level? The only thing the forceware driver and rivertuner see is card #1.

Or should I just downclock the GT OC..
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what res are you running?? \\SLI gives better performance increases at high res's
    
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Originally Posted by Mr_Me_II View Post
Ok I went ahead and bought the card..put it in...gave it power and slapped on that SLI bridge I've been waiting so long to open from it's little plastic bag.

There is no difference whatsoever. With 1 card in CS:S Video Stress Test, 159.89FPS AVG, with 2 in SLI, 158.62.

I am pretty sure I know why this happened, both the cards are slightly different frequencies. One is a GT OC and one is a GT. The only difference I noticed between the 2 cards physially is the heatsink, which is identical except for the color/images on the thing.

How do I get into the second 7800 to overclock it to the right level? The only thing the forceware driver and rivertuner see is card #1.

Or should I just downclock the GT OC..
did you set the cards to SLI mode in the nvidia control panel?
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How do I get into the second 7800 to overclock it to the right level? The only thing the forceware driver and rivertuner see is card #1
you can't o/c them seperately... when in SLI mode they both take the settings of the lowest spec card... and then when you overclock, it overclocks them both at to the same speed.

And I don't know your motherboard well but... you may have to go into the bios and set the PCI-E to x16x16. And/or there maybe some jumpers on your motherboard somewhere that you have to change to enable SLI.
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