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I am not sure where I read this, but I heard that MS was going to make a blu-ray player for the 360. It would make sense, and there is no reason they couldn't. Its not like the XBOX is HD-DVD only, even that is an add on.
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And the xBox outperformed the ps2.. I believe the PS2 still won..
PS2 released earlier, more games and PSX successor. 360 was released before ps3, has more games successor to xbox and has better games, see the resemblance.
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Where did you get that impression? Multilayer HD-DVDs exist and, and designs with more layers are being researched and implemented...just like Blu Ray. According to Wikipedia (which I hate to use as a souce, but it's just so darn easy!), two new HD-DVD enhancements were demonstrated at CES this year:

1. Triple layer HD-DVDs are with 17GB per layer instead of the traditional 15GB, providing a 51GB total
2. Behind closed doors, a 10-layer HD-DVD. Yes, that's right, 10 layers, totaling 150GB.

Sure, Blu Ray can do and was demonstrated with 10 layers too, and that gets you to a whopping 250 GB. But...so what? No HD movie is going to need more than150GB, period. We'll be in a whole new video format before that kind of storage is necessary...3D holograms, or something.

And before anyone starts, don't bring up issues like storage capacity for PCs, or whatever. HD-DVD vs. Blu-Ray is a movie format debate, through and through. PC storage are already much more diverse and changes much more rapidly, so it's a non-starter conversation point with me.

Anyway, the point is that HD-DVD capacity is not maxed out.



That was actually developed as early as 2005. Source.

Here's another source dated much later, September 2006. I'm not sure why the time discrepancy...maybe the 2005 article was just announcing the breakthrough, the 2006 announcement was for a developed product that can be released to market. Either way, it's actually an awesome format: combining HD-DVD and standard DVD on a single disc. Talk about econonimcal for distributors: one disc containing both formats, i.e. multiple products. And talk about perfect for consumers: Buy a DVD now that won't be obsolete when you finally take the plunge into HD-DVD. Any way you look at it, it's win-freakin-win.

(The only way it wouldn't be win-win is if the damn greedy distributors decided to charge a lot more for the dual-format disc, thinking of each version as a separate product. And unfortunatley, I have no respect for them and believe that this is exactly what they would do.)

RE: 10 layer HD-DVD...Did not know that.

Although, I'm seeing a serious problem with even the slightest blemish on both BluRay and HD-DVD. They will simply not playback no matter how hard you try to polish them. I can see this problem only getting worse as you add on more and more layers. So, narrower light frequencies, not more layers, is a more durable media.
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I am not sure where I read this, but I heard that MS was going to make a blu-ray player for the 360. It would make sense, and there is no reason they couldn't. Its not like the XBOX is HD-DVD only, even that is an add on.
It is my understanding that M$ is officially only supporting HD-DVD. Making a 360 compatible BluRay player would be counter productive for them.
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RE: 10 layer HD-DVD...Did not know that.

Although, I'm seeing a serious problem with even the slightest blemish on both BluRay and HD-DVD. They will simply not playback no matter how hard you try to polish them. I can see this problem only getting worse as you add on more and more layers. So, narrower light frequencies, not more layers, is a more durable media.
Regarding the Blu-Ray HD-DVD capacity...doesn't Blu-Ray hold more per layer anyways? Making the number of layers a moot point?
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Regarding the Blu-Ray HD-DVD capacity...doesn't Blu-Ray hold more per layer anyways? Making the number of layers a moot point?
Indeed
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you can argue till you are blue in the face over this subject and get nowhere. just wait and see. i personally have both 360 and ps3 and i like ps3 better. im waiting for a new gran turismo. as for shooters like halo 3 etc. with out a mouse and keyboard they are useless to me i hate joystick for those type of games.
    
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you can argue till you are blue in the face over this subject and get nowhere. just wait and see. i personally have both 360 and ps3 and i like ps3 better. im waiting for a new gran turismo. as for shooters like halo 3 etc. with out a mouse and keyboard they are useless to me i hate joystick for those type of games.
It's already been a while and we have been waiting. I'll give it till Q1 08.. If the PS3 isn't a huge hit on times like Black Friday and Christmas meh.
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well it was a huge item last year for christmas. its all about personal prefrence. im not a huge fanboy of either side but from what ive seen so far i prefer the ps3. but i do however remember the 360 of mine having to be returned 3 times during the black friday thru christmas season because of red ring of doom problems. but i will say that 360 has some quality games but none of them came out within the first year it was out. at least not in my opinion. they were all second generation games. i really dont care to discuss this any further because its useless like i said to really argue over a video game or system. its the old ford VS chevy argument both are decent and pick the one you like best .
    
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I am not sure where I read this, but I heard that MS was going to make a blu-ray player for the 360. It would make sense, and there is no reason they couldn't. Its not like the XBOX is HD-DVD only, even that is an add on.
Nope. Early on, a Microsoft rep said that it they could make a Blu Ray player if that's the way the format war unfolded and there was demand for a Blu Ray add-on; and technically, that's still true. But every comment they have made on the subject since then has been a strong "No, we are not making a Blu Ray add-on".

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PS2 released earlier, more games and PSX successor. 360 was released before ps3, has more games successor to xbox and has better games, see the resemblance.
Yep. The major difference I see between then and now is that, back then, Microsoft was a nobody in the gaming space. They had to prove themselves, they were starting from zero. This time around, Sony did not have that same disadvantage; they were the brand to beat, no question. Which make it all the more telling that they are getting beat, quite handily so far.

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Although, I'm seeing a serious problem with even the slightest blemish on both BluRay and HD-DVD. They will simply not playback no matter how hard you try to polish them. I can see this problem only getting worse as you add on more and more layers. So, narrower light frequencies, not more layers, is a more durable media.
Wow...I didn't know that. That kind of makes a strong argument for protecting the discs in plastic cases, like the old DVD-RAM or (shudder) even UMD did.

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Regarding the Blu-Ray HD-DVD capacity...doesn't Blu-Ray hold more per layer anyways? Making the number of layers a moot point?
Yes. My only point was that HD-DVD capacity is still growing as they figure out how to add more layers. If both formats have the same number of layers, then the Blu Ray version definitely has more capacity. But again, for movie playback that's a moot point once you reach a certain level.

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It's already been a while and we have been waiting. I'll give it till Q1 08.. If the PS3 isn't a huge hit on times like Black Friday and Christmas meh.
That's probably a good time to make final judgment. By then, the X360 will also have had a price drop. It will also have Halo 3. Now we all know that the X360 Core system is crap, but if it's only $250 or less...literally half the price of the low-end PS3, plus Halo 3 will be out...a looooooot of Average Joe Wal-Mart Shoppers will be jumping on board. It will be priced for the masses, and still be a hardcore gaming system. (Plus they can still get an X360 and a Wii for the same price as a PS3.)
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