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I have an Amd X2 3800 939 cpu on an Asus An8 Sli Delux mobo with 4 X 512 corsair value select memory ddr3200 cas 2 and a 36gb 16mb raptor as my boot drive but would like to run my cpu at least 2.5ghz If not higher to get the best out of my rig before upgrading to core 2 duo so any help would be gratfully recieved ..im running the cpu at 2.2 Ghz at the moment.. thanks in advance....
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Well, you can go into the BIOS and go the cpu menu and change the FSB. Btw, please use correct spelling and grammar.
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Isn't it easier not to cap every word lol.
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Well, you can go into the BIOS and go the cpu menu and change the FSB. Btw, please use correct spelling and grammar.
agreed

also I have that memory and its not too good at overclocking. Increase all the timings by one level eg from 3-3-3-8 to 4-4-4-9

Thats just to make sure your memory isn't the limiting factor
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agreed

also I have that memory and its not too good at overclocking. Increase all the timings by one level eg from 3-3-3-8 to 4-4-4-9

Thats just to make sure your memory isn't the limiting factor
What , where , when ... Cas 4 on DDR1 you example should be from 2-2-2-6 to 3-3-3-8 and no way that he will touch Cas2 with those Value select




Best thing to do is to set the memory to DDR333 and raise the FSB to 240 , keep the vcore as it is "1.35V" , so you will be running @ 2.4GHZ and ram @ PC3200 then check for stability ,,, the next step is to go all the way to 2.5GHZ
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dear amdkillsintel thanks for the lesson but i do believe the language is english not american..anyway that how it the gramma came out whilst writing this thread..
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Ok tommyboy...I have the EXACT same setup as you, except I only have 2x512MB Corsair Value RAM. Here's what you do.

1: Go into your bios, and look for Jumper free
2: Set the fsb up to 250
3: The last thing to change on that page is voltage and multiplier. (I think its VID/Multi)
4: Change your voltage to 1.35v, leave multiplier at 10x
5: Find your HT settings (I believe it was Chipset options).
6: Change your chipset options as follows: 4x, 16 up 16 down, 5x, 16 up and down.
7: Find your RAM (I believe its under CPU settings or something).
8: Limit your RAM to 166MHz.

You're done. If I got the spots correct, that'll work perfectly fine. That's the MOST I can get out of mine. You may have to hunt for a few of those things, I could have them listed wrong here. But good luck, and don't forget to +rep people that deserve it!

Also.....fill in your sig rig. That'll help us help you in the future.
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Btw, please use correct spelling and grammar.
he's a kid, go easy on him. however, i will now make fun of him for choosing this particular forum to put this in. Site Technical Issues??? crazy!

Pioneer, can you tell me why he can't set his DDR 400 memory at DDR 400 speeds? i tried to set a friend's AMD to DDR 400 and it was totally unstable. why do you have to underclock the memory in these whacky AMD systems?
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he's a kid, go easy on him. however, i will now make fun of him for choosing this particular forum to put this in. Site Technical Issues??? crazy!

Pioneer, can you tell me why he can't set his DDR 400 memory at DDR 400 speeds? i tried to set a friend's AMD to DDR 400 and it was totally unstable. why do you have to underclock the memory in these whacky AMD systems?
That's a VERY good question....+rep
You have to set the RAM down because when you overclock, it overclocks your RAM too. The stock FSB was 200, so was the RAM (DDR400=200MHz). So when you go to 250, your RAM goes to 250 as well, unless you underclock it some. I still haven't figured out the exact way it works...but on my rig (which is exactly like his), I set my RAM at 166 instead of 200, and I get 208MHz from it (which is about the most Corsair Value RAM can handle).

I forgot to add for the original poster though, our boards are pretty good at these things. If you leave your HT and RAM settings to auto, they'll automatically clock themselves correctly (usually). I always check my OC with CPUz first, to make sure my RAM is going to work right.

Forgot to add....please people, don't forget to +rep people that help you out. I'd really like to be able to post for sale/wanted things, lol.
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Pioneer, can you tell me why he can't set his DDR 400 memory at DDR 400 speeds? i tried to set a friend's AMD to DDR 400 and it was totally unstable. why do you have to underclock the memory in these whacky AMD systems?
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That's a VERY good question.
You have to set the RAM down because when you overclock, it overclocks your RAM too. The stock FSB was 200, so was the RAM (DDR400=200MHz). So when you go to 250, your RAM goes to 250 as well, unless you underclock it some. I still haven't figured out the exact way it works...but on my rig (which is exactly like his), I set my RAM at 166 instead of 200, and I get 208MHz from it (which is about the most Corsair Value RAM can handle).

Forgot to add....please people, don't forget to +rep people that help you out. I'd really like to be able to post for sale/wanted things, lol.
When the ratio between the CPU/RAM is 1:1, they overclock equal to each other. If you change the ratio to, let's say 2:1 (2 being cpu, 1 being ram), it will stress the memory 1/2 as much as the CPU. It pretty much eliminates the memory from being a bottleneck, I think.

The thing is at this ratio, from what I have gathered, is that for every 2 MHz the cpu increases, the ram will increase by 1 MHz. Same thing applies to all of the other ratios (5:4, 4:3, etc.); just adjust accordingly.

I'm no expert, so anyone feel free to correct me if I am mistaken.

PS @ pioneerisloud: It seems like you are borderline rep begging, and that isn't wise to do. You will get more rep in time, man. Jesus, look at me! Just have some patients, you'll get there.
    
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