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I know that using a condenser from a common fridge is out due to some complicated reasons as a phase change cooler, but could one be used to chill liquid coolant in a liquid cooled system? Any suggestions on how to do this or if it would be worth the cost?
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it depends on the size/rating of the compressor in the fridge but most just cant handle the load put on them. Your best bet is a window A/C unit. They are made to run all day and have the most compatible setup for making into a chiller or whatever else you wanna make out of them. They are relatively cheap also going from about what like $100 to $300 bones on the average.
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I know that using a condenser from a common fridge is out due to some complicated reasons as a phase change cooler, but could one be used to chill liquid coolant in a liquid cooled system? Any suggestions on how to do this or if it would be worth the cost?
Well... if you don't want to use phase change, how do you propose to chill the liquid? The only few methods I can think of are TEC (horribly inefficent and complicated), evaporation/swamp (high maintainence and only slightly chilled), or ice in a cooler (high maintainence).
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Its unlikely to be able to handle it, except possibly if you find a large industrial fridge, which is unlikely.

The reason is simple; Fridges are designed to cool things that aren't constantly giving off heat, such as food, but the watercooling would constantly be giving off heat, and the compressor wouldn't be able to handle it. Plus, its unlikely that it will cool it fast enough, as the coolant would go through pretty fast, and when you put something in the fridge for under 20 seconds it isn't very cold.

It might be possible with a fridge or freezer that was very powerful, but only for a short benchmarking, and it would probably be more effective just to use a normal rad.


Short answer: Buy a rad.
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first, before you let the water flow trough a chiller, cool it with a rad to temps somewhere around ambient. get a decent 360 rad for this.
then build a heat-exchanger with the cooling element from the fridge, by connecting lots of copper pipes to it, and put those pipes in series, and connect them to your WC system. isolate the heat exchanger.
IF your fridge doesnt die from the constant strain, which i've heard can happen, you should be able to drop a few degrees.
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Take a mini fridge, get alot of copper tubing and make into a big coil with atleast 10 to 15 turns on it. Have that laying in a tub of water ( note I would have the tub of water in the fridge the night before so it is cold when you start the pump up.) You would need to drill holes in the side of the fridge and use rubber grommets to seal it up nice. The only thing I can see wrong with this is.. That if you have a long run of hose from the fridge to the pump or res, it could warm up a bit.. So keep your hose runs as short as possible
    
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What you need to do is rebuild and recharge a loop. You will need 2 heat exchangers, a compressor, a filter/drier, copper tubing, and 2 shrader valves brazed onto copper T pieces. (You will also require brazing equipment and an HVAC Manifold, aswell as a gas such as Propane to charge the unit with. You will also need a vaccuum pump/compressor)

One heat exchanger should be your evaporator, submerged in the water, and the other the condensor with a fan onit to cool the hot compressed gas in the loop.

If thats too much effort, various people on Xtreme systems have dismantled fridges to make waterchillers. They can work. If you have a big enough compressor it won't burn out. If you're working with an older compressor, I recommend renewing the POE Oil in the compressor.
    
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