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Hi, thanks for all the guides and helpful tips here, I was able to OC my system a bit. But, It seems I hit the wall at about 305Mhz. What can I do to get more juice out of it? How far can I push my RAM and CPU voltage without frying it?

Specs:

MOBO: ASUS P5N32E-SLI
BIOS: Phoenix, ASUS P5N32-E SLI ACPI BIOS Revision 1103, 06/04/2007
RAM: Kingston KVR800D2N5/512
CPU: Intel E6300

Currently running at:
Vcore 1.525v
RAM 2.025v
FSB 305Mhz

Idle CPU temp 53-60C
mobo temp 37C

Rest of the bios settings are all auto. I have good ventilated casing but the cpu fan is the generic Intel.

Thanks.

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post #2 of 19
First, get your ram at 1:1. It might be at its max now which would be holding back your overclock. Look around and try to set it at speed with the CPU..its somewhere in jumper free mode.

After that you'll be able to lower your CPU vcore, it doesnt need to be that high no doubt. Try 1.4v and see how far that gets you. My bet is that your ram was your wall.

You should also look up the stock timings your your ram, which i imagine are something liek 5-5-5-15 or something along those lines. Setting them manuall will help with stability and they are currently way higher than they need to be.
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post #3 of 19
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Thanks for the help I set my RAM to 5-5-5-15 and it seems stable. but no matter what I do I cant set my RAM to 1:1, my system fails to load and the mobo screems. I set it back to 2:3 and it seems fine now but i'm back at where I was.
Should I look into a better RAM or there is something else I can do?

Update: Somehow after setting RAM timing and ratio to 2:3 I'm able to up the frequency and now at 333. CPU is at 1.4V and RAM at 2.0V
Is it right?
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post #4 of 19
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OK after playing with my settings for a few days I think (hope) I finally understood what it is to get my ratio at 1:1 it's either under-clock my ram or overclock my bus. I didn't want to under-clock my ram so I went for the bus, it's now running stable at 400Mhz meaning it is at 1:1 with my ram. I had to up my vcore to 1.45 other wise my system would reboot itself while running 3d mark.

I hope I'm no endangering my system with this high bus frequency but I trust asus to put in the necessary fail safe devices. How crucial it is to run the system at 1:1 isn't it better to try and overclock ram and cpu as much as possible regardless of the ratio?
I can overclock my RAM to 900Mhz before it fails shouldn't I go for it?



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post #5 of 19
i like the corevolt alot better now , lets see your running 1:1 at fsb 400x7.
can you go higher? idk what batch you have but i got L631a and i was at 3.43ghz 490x7 at corev 1.35. cpu was stable ram wasnt .

you may be able to do better, at your current speed you should be able to tighten your timings a bit

edit-i see your at 1.45v not what cpuz says lol. that still seems high, do you know your batch?
post #6 of 19
Not using a 1:1 ratio works out for a few, but usually your better of hanging on to a 1:1 ratio.

I hope lowering you cpu voltage got your temps down.
55C-60C really is high
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post #7 of 19
1.4vcore should still be plent for a 2.8ghz cpu...i would keep your RAM at one speed and use the multi to gain CPU speed, to test for CPU stability, in an area where you know the RAM is good to go.

^^ That will help narrow down, your focus in case you start getting re-boots...you know you only have to worry about mobo/cpu settings and not RAM as well.

Once you get your CPU to the area where you want it..then take your RAM for a ride up to 900mhz and see how it goes.
post #8 of 19
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i like the corevolt alot better now , lets see your running 1:1 at fsb 400x7.
can you go higher? idk what batch you have but i got L631a and i was at 3.43ghz 490x7 at corev 1.35. cpu was stable ram wasnt .

you may be able to do better, at your current speed you should be able to tighten your timings a bit

edit-i see your at 1.45v not what cpuz says lol. that still seems high, do you know your batch?
hmmmm batch?
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post #9 of 19
Idle CPU temp 53-60C

THAT IS NOT OKAY! IT IS SUPPOSED TO LOAD UNDER 63C! YOUR VOLTAGE SHOULD NOT GO ABOVE 1.45 UNLESS YOU'RE ON CHILLED WATER COOLING +!

DO NOT DO ANYTHING BUT DROP THE VOLTAGE AND GET A NEW HSF BEFORE YOU OC ANYMORE!
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edit-i see your at 1.45v not what cpuz says lol. that still seems high, do you know your batch?
SuperPi typically reports false readings on the vcore once surpassing 1.4v...so dont trust it!
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