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the file they specified and the website they specified are both legit.

There's not illegal about downloading a .torrent file, or vising a torrent website. It IS illegal however, to download the actual disc images or whatever, if they are copyrighted works.

And just for the record, there are companies that use torrents to distro their own software.

Ever hear of SWINE, it's a game that a company decided they were making free. That torrent was put onto multiple torrent sites (granted, a lot of the torrents AROUND that one were illegal, but that's beside the point), and they even tracked it by themself.

So again, nothing about torrents themselves are illegal.
the world in conflict beta is being distributed through torrents...


anyhow I love living in canada downloading is legal...
post #52 of 72
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anyone can connect to any public tracker. thepiratebay is NOT a private tracker.

DEMONOID IS A PRIVATE TRACKER.

SOLUTION: USE DEMONOID.
yeah and then register on a friday when they are open. and wazam you mr riaa agent are undercover and able to get peoples information now.

wasn't that hard to get around now so even demonoid isn't that secure. all you have to do is wait for open reg
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Whatd battle nut mean by watch out for things with an I or a P?
I dont recall anything like that.
And a Q, does any specific torrent proram with peerguardian more safe then another?
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Whatd battle nut mean by watch out for things with an I or a P?
I dont recall anything like that.
And a Q, does any specific torrent proram with peerguardian more safe then another?
No program uses peer guardian it's a standalone app. It's basically an ip blocker with a blacklist that checks for infringing riaa IP's and blocks them.

I dought you have to use it with private trackers such as bitsoup but it gives me peace of mind

Let me clarify DEMONOID IS NOT PRIVATE. I know TPD is supposed to have 50% tracker share but it seems like EVERYTHING is tracked by demonoid so it's kinda un secure if you know what i mean
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anyways, im like freaking out right now, the legal department can all like any time today. life sucks, to be responsible for other people's actions. too much to be responsible for in life.
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ive never heard of this happening. not even sure it can happen here in aus. i don't think our isp's are allowed to monitor or keep a recored of whatever because we have some weird privacy legislation. plus the RIAA and stuff cant take legal action in aus or outside of Us can they? i wouldnt know.

plus if your running bit torrent you should always use pg2 . even though that probly wont help you if its your isp tracking you.
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ive never heard of this happening. not even sure it can happen here in aus. i don't think our isp's are allowed to monitor or keep a recored of whatever because we have some weird privacy legislation. plus the RIAA and stuff cant take legal action in aus or outside of Us can they? i wouldnt know.

plus if your running bit torrent you should always use pg2 . even though that probly wont help you if its your isp tracking you.
To prevent isp's from tracking you you must enable encryption on your BT client.
although make sure to disable incoming legacy connections which means that people with non encrypted traffic can't connect. I've been using that forever and never had any slowdowns
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post #58 of 72
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yeah this sucks. the whole thread started with how do i prevent my brother from bit torrenting, but i did some research, and it seems the feds have raided comcast to give up people for downloading stuff.

this sucks. comcast sucks. my brother's dumb.

i did some research and one interesting one i found said this:

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This all starts with a story like all things. I've been having to resort to downloading TV shows off of the internet because of the horrendous quality Comcast offers here. It's so bad that the local paper wrote an article urging locals to find alternatives to Comcast because of their horrible service. At the moment the only way to cancel or get any troubleshooting on your service is to drive to their local office as the phone lines are full of customers complaining about how horrible it is or attempting to cancel their service. The BBB have been brought in to investigate their actions.

Their service is so bad that on channels provided on regular cable it is better to watch them on regular cable than it is to watch them through digital cable. Comcast rips the customers here off by receiving analog feeds from the low tier channels, converting them to digital, and sending them back in the form of "digital channels". This goes for about 80 channels that are provided through regular cable.

I received a letter in the mail from Comcast's "Legal Response Center" on my downloading of Rome Season 2, Episode 9 off of BitTorrent. They say I am in violation of the "Digital Millennium Copyright Act" and that it is a violation of their acceptible use policy; it may result in a suspension or termination of my service account. I say go right ahead. It'll give me an excuse to try alternative or perhaps better methods of receiving the internet.

As a result I have sent an e-mail back to their "Legal Response Center" stating my differences with the company and my reasons for downloading "illegal content". In my opinion it's not illegal when I am unable to watch the show on TV when I pay for it. Here's what I replied with:

Thanks for mailing me this letter regarding my downloading of Rome Season 2, Episode 9. I have had nothing but rotten service from Comcast ever since our local Time Warner Cable provider was bought out by you. I have in the process lost about 12 channels on my TV, saw an incredible loss in quality on my TV, and a higher monthly bill on both digital cable and internet. I subscribe to HBO and if you look at my records you will see that I subscribe to it, but the problem is that the quality of the picture is so horrendous that I am forced to download the episodes off the internet to even watch the show or many of my favorite shows for that matter. The problem with my downloading this episode off the internet comes down to YOU. If the quality of my service wasn't so deplorable I wouldn't have the need nor the desire to download any television programming off the internet. I see this as a fair trade. I can't get it through digital nor HDTV cable in quality good enough for human viewing, so I download it. Plain and simple. Fix your cable service and I'll stop downloading episodes off of the internet.

If you would be so kind please contact my local Comcast Cable service provider in West Monroe, Louisiana and tell them that I've been trying to call them for the past few weeks trying to resolve my TV quality issues with them, but I am unable to get to talk to someone as the waiting time is around an hour at the moment. To tell you the truth it's because so many people from this area are calling to complain. Even the local paper wrote about how atrocious the quality of service Comcast has here. People are unable to cancel their service with Comcast because they are unable to get ahold of a service representative to cancel their service or to even troubleshoot it. We are not used to this kind of irresponsible service, and we are not about to put up with it.

I cannot watch this show on demand because that service stopped working after Time Warner left and I guess the local Comcast service provider doesn't have a comparable service to Time Warner's On Demand service. I can't watch the episodes at my leisure anymore, but then again I don't want to because the quality of my cable service has taken a huge dip. Don't even get me on DVR service because if I record the show off of the TV using the DVR it is in a lower quality than it was on the TV, so I would be watching it in even lower quality than I would normally. No thanks.

You can feed this information to HBO/BBC. I own the first season on DVD and bought it through Amazon.com. So if they want to use this violation of our civil rights to go see that I purchased it through Amazon be my guess. The second season isn't offered on DVD yet. I don't know if I'll be purchasing it or watching anything on HBO again or anything owned by the BBC as I feel I am being violated. Why don't you spend your time going after people who actively download episodes off of the internet to create themselves a collection of episodes to use instead of purchasing DVDs? I have shown to you that I am not an active pirate and that I will purchase the shows that I like when they are offered for purchase. As this is not offered for purchase at this time I would gladly send you a proof of purchase when it does come up for purchase. Would you or HBO care to see that? I doubt HBO would care because they cancelled it, certainly the best show since Band of Brothers in 2001 (I own that on DVD, too).

This all comes down to Comcast's inability to provide proper service to its customers. I pay over $100 a month for garbage. Provide quality comparable to the amount being paid out by customers and perhaps most of this activity will stop. It won't stop completely, but you will know that your customers downloading TV shows off of the internet at that point in time are active violators of copyright law and not people like me who find it necessary to get their TV shows using this method to watch them once and delete afterwards.

Get off my back and have a good day.

I wonder what their reply will be. It'll probably be a cancellation of my services. Oh well. Big loss I say. Oddly enough as a complete opposite to this I got my free gift from Nintendo Power in the mail of Twilight Princess' soundtrack and its strategy guide. At least that's a plus.
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I meant paired/running while PG is also.
Im using utorrent.
And how do you encrypt your torrent program and block legacy connections ( or something?)
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encryption prevents THIS. and THIS ONLY.



The copyright holders of any work deal with the file itself. the name. how big it is. who it belongs to. and who is currently downloading or uploading that file. on ANY protocol.

these are the people who get the letters sent out to you. or worse.

encryption does NOT protect you from this.



Step thru it...


You a normal bit torrent user. log into thepiratesnackbar.com and start your encrypted torrent download of "XYZ THE MOVIE". Your client logs into the tracker and registers your ip and how much of the file you have. you have zero %. your client obtains a list of people who are also downloading and have parts of the file.

you start downloading the copyrighted work you do not own from those people.

Time passes. You now have 5% of the file.


I the copyright holder of "XYZ THE MOVIE" (or an agent i have paid) logs into thepiratesnackbar.com and starts the same torrent download with the same encrypted torrent software YOU are using.

I goto the peer list. i see YOUR IP uploading my own copyrighted work to me.

You are busted hard. I take note of your IP. do a lookup and see what ISP it belongs to. you live in country X. where my works are protected by law.

I send my lawyers to contact your ISP. and notify them that YOU. a user of their service. are uploading MY copyrighted work without MY permission.

at this point i can either do nothing.

or have a warning sent to you thru your isp.


or i can go get a judge and present my evidence that a user at YOUR IP on YOUR ISP at time/date X was uploading my copyrighted work. i demand the judge order the ISP to turn over the real world details of that user who was on that IP at time X. name, address, telephone, credit card name, any other info the isp has about the user at that time on that ip.

Your isp complys with the order of the law.

I have your personal info.


I take YOU to court!

AND/OR... send the police, have your isp cut your account off, demand you pay a fine, demand you pay a fine OR ELSE! and maybe even have you sent to jail.

i can do any or all of these things depending on how well i convince a judge or jury that you hurt my business and costed me somehow.


at NO time did the encryption used in bit torrent hide your IP from me. or that you were downloading my copyrighted work!

The only thing encryption does is prevent your isp from using software that identifys and limits ANY AND ALL visible non encrypted bit torrent trafic

With encryption active its just unidetifyed traffic to your isp. they dont know what it is. and dont limit it.

But to every other user of the encrypted bit torrent client your ip is still freely visible. along with the details of the files you are downloading.
basically they can still get you, if they wanted.
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