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A complete Noob is prepared for your abuse in order to get this right

post #1 of 20
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Ok I'll cut to the chase otherwise this could get very long.

I'm going to replace my 3 year old PC, which was based around an AMD Athlon 3000 single core processor with 512mb ram and to be honest I have no idea what motherboard it has. It has 120 gb hard drive.

I decided to replace rather than upgrade as I am going to uni and would like the new one to last 3 years without having to do much to it.

The PC is used for heavy net use, watching video's, DVD, storing and listening to my music, my 120 gb is rammed full and I am deleting stuff on a monthly basis it seems. I would also like to play the latest games on it without any problems, but don't expect that I'll be able to play the latest games in 18 months time without some upgrades.

I've deliberated over each part with more thought than I have put into, well pretty much anything.

The only definite thing - Corsair 2gb DDR2 800mhz @ £67
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=MY-092-CS

I also reckon it would be wise to to upgrade to Vista Home premum in order to make sure it's still going strong in a couple of years @ £67

One major headache I have had selecting is the motherboard, I have definitely decided to go with AMD for the cpu now as core duo is just gonna stretch the budget too much.

Having read a lot of threads on here I have decided that a 64x2 6000+ is an extravagance that isn't needed.

Which CPU and motherboard would you suggest, at £40 this http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=CP-134-AM (AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 3800+ (Socket 939) - OEM) is going dirt cheap, but what does the 939 socket connection mean, and what is the difference in terms of performance compared to an AM2 socket connection, other than having to get a different type of motherboard?

I want to keep the overall budget at £500, I am using my monitor, mouse, keyboard and dvd rw drive from my old pc.

Oh and would it be a big no no to get a case with a psu supplied or am I better off getting them both seperate?

Right I think that's enough questions for now, I didn't really cut to the chase did I, but thanks for sticking with it, if you did.
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post #2 of 20
socket 939 is outdated.

Don't buy that. ANd if you did ddr2 RAM would not work with it.

The best AMD overclocker is the x3600

The x2 6000 is a wast of money and not an "extravagence" (if you spend that much on a processor you go C2D)

The x2 3600 can easly beat a x2 6000 when overclocked
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post #3 of 20
do you need to buy a new case aswell? or not, because, if not, ive got a great build here

Edit: if you need a case, i can manage £521 posted from ocuk... but i can't really get any lower on price, unless you go for a crappy case
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post #4 of 20
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Originally Posted by Fusion Racing View Post
do you need to buy a new case aswell? or not, because, if not, ive got a great build here

Yeah I'll need a new case because the current pc is going to my mum.

How will the x2 3600 stand up in a couple of years, how easy is it to learn overclocking, I am pretty tech savvy I just haven't kept on top of tech changes since buying my last pc, I guess at £50 I shouldn't worry too much as I could replace the cpu in 2 years or so if needs be.
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Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 Asus P5N-E SLi nForce HIS ATI Radeon X1950 512mb GDDR3 Corsair 2x1gb DDR2 
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post #5 of 20
well it will be crap in 3 years (my pc is 3 years).

But AM2 and AM3 willl be compatible.

Overclocking is very easy
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post #6 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by zoostation View Post
Yeah I'll need a new case because the current pc is going to my mum.

How will the x2 3600 stand up in a couple of years, how easy is it to learn overclocking, I am pretty tech savvy I just haven't kept on top of tech changes since buying my last pc, I guess at £50 I shouldn't worry too much as I could replace the cpu in 2 years or so if needs be.
what would you say to a build that is £521.... would £21 over your budget be ok? - its mainly the shipping that pushes it up

and this is a C2D build
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Samsung 840 120GB + 850 1TB + Intel 520 240GB Samsung F3 1TB Thermalright Venomous X w/ FM122 Windows 7 Pro x64 
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Dell U2312HM 1920x1080 @ 60Hz Ducky Shine II (Blues w/ White Backlight) Corsair HX 620W Fractal Design XL (Black Pearl) 
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Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 840 120GB + 850 1TB + Intel 520 240GB Samsung F3 1TB Thermalright Venomous X w/ FM122 Windows 7 Pro x64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell U2312HM 1920x1080 @ 60Hz Ducky Shine II (Blues w/ White Backlight) Corsair HX 620W Fractal Design XL (Black Pearl) 
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post #7 of 20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fusion Racing View Post
what would you say to a build that is £521.... would £21 over your budget be ok? - its mainly the shipping that pushes it up

and this is a C2D build
I could live with £21 over, could you show us the components?
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post #8 of 20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iampoor View Post
well it will be crap in 3 years (my pc is 3 years).

But AM2 and AM3 willl be compatible.

Overclocking is very easy
What motherboard would you suggest for this, problem I have had at the minute selecting a motherboard is I think I am going over and above what my needs are.

Have had another look, and would this be appropriate and allow me to stick a newer cpu on in 18 months or so if needs be.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=MB-145-AS
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post #9 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by zoostation View Post
I could live with £21 over, could you show us the components?
i can



i think everything is in there, if it isn't - ill add it and find a way to get the price back down
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Samsung 840 120GB + 850 1TB + Intel 520 240GB Samsung F3 1TB Thermalright Venomous X w/ FM122 Windows 7 Pro x64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell U2312HM 1920x1080 @ 60Hz Ducky Shine II (Blues w/ White Backlight) Corsair HX 620W Fractal Design XL (Black Pearl) 
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Samsung 840 120GB + 850 1TB + Intel 520 240GB Samsung F3 1TB Thermalright Venomous X w/ FM122 Windows 7 Pro x64 
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Dell U2312HM 1920x1080 @ 60Hz Ducky Shine II (Blues w/ White Backlight) Corsair HX 620W Fractal Design XL (Black Pearl) 
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post #10 of 20
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Thing is I thought if I was going to go the way of Intel I would base it around the e6550 when it's released (and I'd prepared to go to £550 but then it's hitting maximum)

Is 600w necessary for the psu, what could I run the system at comfortably?

I'd want vista which is like £67 of the budget straight away tho.
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