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post #11 of 20
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Originally Posted by zoostation View Post
Thing is I thought if I was going to go the way of Intel I would base it around the e6550 when it's released (and I'd prepared to go to £550 but then it's hitting maximum)

Is 600w necessary for the psu, what could I run the system at comfortably?

I'd want vista which is like £67 of the budget straight away tho.
ahh yeh damn.... i forgot about vista

the thing is, with this rig, it will be so much better than any AMD rig you could build - much faster, and would overclock loads more aswell...

if you want vista aswell... it would be tight on prices... depends, what you want to do really... cheaper case you could afford vista easier - or just get more monies somehow
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post #12 of 20
I think you'd be better off with a system like the one Fusion Racing has suggested.

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Overclocking is very easy
Overclocking in small amounts, such as 150Mhz on a Pentium 4 3.0Ghz is easy. However, decent overclocks aren't quite as simple as there is alot of trial and error involved. I used to run my previous Pentium 4 650 @ 4.0Ghz on a 24/7 basis, and I'm currently running an extra 1200Mhz through my E6600. There are many factors to take into consideration, for starters, you'd definately need an after market cooler to hit 3.0Ghz if you based your system on the X2 3600+. You'd also need to familurise yourself with the voltage requirements of your motherboard and CPU to attain decent clock speeds.
post #13 of 20
This is just about your budget..now i know you think that cpu is low end..but trust me that overclocked to 3 ghz..which is very likely compared to say the e6600 at 3.0ghz..the difference is not much..ok so its got 1mb L2..but it wont be very noticeable.
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post #14 of 20
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Ok I have been going at this for the last 8 and half hours, which is more than shocking and very sad I know.

I'm £16 over my max budget haha (like such a thing can be stuck to) but I set it low so not to go too extravagant.

I could probably save money with a different graphics card which may do the same job for less money, so any sugggestions welcome.

I only have 450w from the psu which is with the case. That may not be enough, I do not honestly know and would like some advice as a couple of you have suggested 600w, I'm hoping that's not necessary otherwise I have to relook at this.

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post #15 of 20
skip the 8600... performance isn't worth it unless you "have to have" the dx10 card.
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post #16 of 20
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Originally Posted by t4ct1c47 View Post
Overclocking in small amounts, such as 150Mhz on a Pentium 4 3.0Ghz is easy. However, decent overclocks aren't quite as simple as there is alot of trial and error involved. I used to run my previous Pentium 4 650 @ 4.0Ghz on a 24/7 basis, and I'm currently running an extra 1200Mhz through my E6600. There are many factors to take into consideration, for starters, you'd definately need an after market cooler to hit 3.0Ghz if you based your system on the X2 3600+. You'd also need to familurise yourself with the voltage requirements of your motherboard and CPU to attain decent clock speeds.

My point is It doesn't take lots of though just time which I mentioned nothing about.

I know mine wasn't hard. I saying that it is easy to Understand

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Ok I have been going at this for the last 8 and half hours, which is more than shocking and very sad I know.

I'm £16 over my max budget haha (like such a thing can be stuck to) but I set it low so not to go too extravagant.

I could probably save money with a different graphics card which may do the same job for less money, so any sugggestions welcome.

I only have 450w from the psu which is with the case. That may not be enough, I do not honestly know and would like some advice as a couple of you have suggested 600w, I'm hoping that's not necessary otherwise I have to relook at this.


Thats a good compromise.

However all the systems here are good. for the minimum yours is fine
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post #17 of 20
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skip the 8600... performance isn't worth it unless you "have to have" the dx10 card.
Could you suggest an alternative, I do agree it would be daft for the most expensive component to be the graphics card.

Thanks for your help everyone btw.
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post #18 of 20
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Could you suggest an alternative, I do agree it would be daft for the most expensive component to be the graphics card.

Thanks for your help everyone btw.
only alternative would be the X1950 Pro - but considering the 8600GTS is £111 and performs around a 7900GT in DX9 its a damn good buy

i made another build which had the same parts as my last one i posted apart from it had vista home premium 64bit... and i changed the case to a Thermaltake soprano and its still expensive, but a good build. £574 posted...

i can't really make it cheaper or you will really start to lose performance
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post #19 of 20
The only other alternative is the 8600gts (which is a better value) but it costs more.

STAY WITH THE 8600GT
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post #20 of 20
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I am actually now thinking that I will get an x1950, it'll end up costing around £580 for the total build, but I'll be really happy with it, and could stretch to that all being well.

Just want to know tho, do Nvidia boards tend to perform better with intel processors than radeon or is there no difference.

And in the future I would like to get a blu ray or hd drive and a good widescreen hd compliant monitor, would the gpu and set up I am proposing be alright to play hd, without the need for further upgrades?
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