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Why are companies producing low-end DX10 solutions? My understand was that the sole purpose of DX10 was for enhanced graphics in video games which requires high end equipment ro run it.

What in gods name is the point in having a DX10 Onboard SiS video or a GeForce 8400?
    
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Vista?
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Vista?
Vista ran in aero on my x300se. Vista doesn't need a DX10 card to run aero.
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Money. Simple as that. Alot of consumers will buy a 8600 or a 8500 expecting to run medium/high in DX10, when infact they will be lucky to get low/medium.

Alot of consumers right now believe that the 8800GTX will tear anything apart easily and run it at smooth frames, thats not true...

Times are changing and top of the line is JUST enough to run games max at a good resolution and aa/af. Infact, top of the line cannot run max on some games right now (DX10 Patched games). 3 years ago top of the line could run anything you threw at it easily.

I personally find anything below the 320MB 8800GTS worthless for DX10.

Also, alot of consumers believe that if they buy a DX10 card all games will be ran in DX10. (Not many here think this because most of us are smarter..) But if you go to best buy and listen in on conversations, I bet you'll hear stuff like that.
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Why do people use integrated DX9 when they could use DX7? It's progess.
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Because people like me dob't need high-end stuff and cannot afford it
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Money. Simple as that. Alot of consumers will buy a 8600 or a 8500 expecting to run medium/high in DX10, when infact they will be lucky to get low/medium.

Alot of consumers right now believe that the 8800GTX will tear anything apart easily and run it at smooth frames, thats not true...

Times are changing and top of the line is JUST enough to run games max at a good resolution and aa/af. Infact, top of the line cannot run max on some games right now (DX10 Patched games). 3 years ago top of the line could run anything you threw at it easily.

I personally find anything below the 320MB 8800GTS worthless for DX10.

Also, alot of consumers believe that if they buy a DX10 card all games will be ran in DX10. (Not many here think this because most of us are smarter..) But if you go to best buy and listen in on conversations, I bet you'll hear stuff like that.
lol what about when the GeForce 6800 came out and even that lagged on Doom3? Bad comparison I know but it just seems like Top of the Line cards dont run next-gen games at Top of the Line performance these days
    
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I think the 8xxx series is the biggest failure on the market. I don't know about the HD 2xxx series but it doesn't look much better. A card who's only revolutionary feature is DX10 and the lack of the HDR/AA 7 series flaw is insignificant when it won't be able to do much of anything with DX10. Even some DX9 games tax the 8800GTX pretty hard.

I'm hoping the 9xxx series will be a major improvement. My next upgrade isn't going to be an 8xxx series unless the 8800GTX becomes really cheap.

There's still hope if they pull an amazing 8950 off. The 7950 is still a powerful card, and completely destroys the 7800GTX. Maybe this series will carry that trend.

DX10 doesn't seem like much of anything to be excited about, except insane hardware requirements. Anyone who thinks DX9 has any lighting insufficiencies should go benchmark firefly forest on 3dmark06 and watch it carefully. Really.

Does anyone see any threads raving about how great any of the DX10 demo's look? No. Just threads about how their quad-core, double 8800-GTX rig play them as well as my integrated-graphics sempron rig plays Doom 3.
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At the end of the day, it's been sometime since the transition from DX8 to DX9 can any of you remember that far back? I can for sure, and it's nowhere near like it was then, things just worked back then. The problem with the 8xxx series and HD29xx is this...

1: Drivers are still nowhere near mature
2: All the DX10 stuff we have seen is relatively rushed and unoptimised.
3: Most DX10 content is patched from DX9 or some failing console port soley to make more revenue by going to PC and DX10.
4: A completely new immature OS that has teething problems of it's own.

So, you can see what the problem is. Software not hardware. Similar is happening to the Quad Core, how many developers are actually creating multi threaded applications or games....very few because it's quite a complex procedure for a programmer.

The reason why there is low end DX10 GPU's is they are very competant at doing DX10 gaming, although we unfortunately haven't witnessed this yet. In a lab somewhere they have superb frame rates with MAX eye candy on the mid range cards except their biding their time until the major titles come out. Then wallop! they will bring out drivers that will simply PWN. Developers are having just as much rivalry as hardware manufacturers these days.
 
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