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as it sits now though most everything is still 32 bit. so your using a 64bit os on a 64bit cpu on a setup that has no native 32 bit support at which point you have to emulate 32bit instructions. you need 64bit drivers and if your like me and like some of the older games you can not play them at all being they are 16 bit. or heck even if the game is 32bit but it uses a 16 bit installer your sol as well.

right now 32bit seems to be the way to go until they can start really giving effort into 64bit programs. and think about it. it's taking them long enough to really do dual core apps and they are still taking their time why would it be any different for 64bit apps.
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I'm sick and tired of the "don't go 64bit because nothing is supported" that has to be the most misinformed statement I've ever heard. I'm sitting here on 64 bit vista and my entire time have only had TWO things not work, my iPhone (which is entirely Apple's fault) and AVG (I had to switch to Avast)

Thats it... unless your using some legacy hardware, or hardware from a no name company nearly EVERYTHING is supported. And if your unsure just choose your parts then go to the manufacturers website and check if they have 64bit vista drivers.

Oh and about the upgrade you can buy the upgrade but still do a clean install from it. Not sure if were allowed to discuss how to do it though.
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viper I'm not saying that 32 bit apps won't work, just that they don't work as a 64bit app does. the 32bit part is more or less emulated. 16bit programs don't work though no matter how you want to look at it unless you can get can somehow emulate the 16bit program in a 32bit enviroment. which for us older folk kinda sucks.
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post #14 of 32
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Originally Posted by rx7speed View Post
viper I'm not saying that 32 bit apps won't work, just that they don't work as a 64bit app does. the 32bit part is more or less emulated. 16bit programs don't work though no matter how you want to look at it unless you can get can somehow emulate the 16bit program in a 32bit enviroment. which for us older folk kinda sucks.
Ill give u that but why choose 32bit when 64bit is the future lol

Better to be ready than have to upgrade again
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post #15 of 32
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For those with a retail version or upgrade of Vista 32, Lude has a post on another thread that you might be interested in.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvist...a/default.mspx

Microsoft will let you purchase the 64 bit version for $10 if you already have Vista 32. I just went to the link and followed the directions and it only takes 5 minutes. I've got Vista 32 for now, and Vista 64 (I'll have to upgrade my Wireless Linksys card... no 64 support) will be on hand when I want to change over.

edit: I went with the upgrade disk because it was only $69 since I am a student. The upgrade disk lets you do a full install and places your old files in a folder called windows.old. Just delet the file.

edit: Also, check out this link. There is article titled, "Use Vista's 'upgrade' version to clean-install"
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post #16 of 32
My mom got a free Vista upgrade with her PC (She doesn't trust me to build them for her, she doesn't build them herself and she does computer hardware stuff all day long at work.. Heck she taught me) and she had SO many problems with it in like 2 days, so she ended up dropping $400 on Ultimate the next day just so the problems would go away.
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post #17 of 32
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Originally Posted by kagaos View Post
In my opinion (not experience) using vista as an upgrade is most likely a bad deal, because it is quite erroneous and...well idk I have just heard bad things. Thats my 2 cents.
Don't talk, you have no experience. It's like saying don't buy this game because it sucks, hogs resources, takes away your energy and never installs. I have never tried it.. >_>!

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Originally Posted by ClaytonCallihan View Post
In my opinion, the only time you should ever even touch vista is if you have a great cpu that can utilize 64bit. 32bit Vista is pointless.
32bit Vista is not pointless. It's fine for those that don't need 4GB of ram like me.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bruestle2 View Post
DO NOT USE VISTA UPGRADE.
I received a full version of Vista Business from my school (Penn State). The first time that I installed it i did not format, just upgraded from XP...when I was done I had so many random problems, that within two weeks I decided to format and install it normally.
After that my computer worked like a charm.
Plus, when you do upgrade, you have to have XP installed already. So unless you feel like installing XP, then installing Vista, then dealing with random problems, just get vista regular.
Use the latest Vista, it's amazing. As fast, sometimes faster than XP.

Quote:
Originally Posted by rx7speed View Post
why is 32bit vista pointless? What makes 64bit so great?
It's not, 64bit is for 4GB of Ram.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Murlocke View Post
I'd recommend 64-bit as well... Most DX10 games have a 64-bit version, including Crysis.

I wouldn't call 32-bit worthless though. 64-Bit doesnt make a huge difference, but if you have a 64-bit processor you should probably use it.
Agreed.

---- OP, read my Vista guide.. The 3rd link in sig.

At post above me, your mom got ripped. BAD. Next time, buy OEM vista from Newegg. Simple and cheap.
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post #18 of 32
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Originally Posted by Bviper View Post
I'm sick and tired of the "don't go 64bit because nothing is supported" that has to be the most misinformed statement I've ever heard. I'm sitting here on 64 bit vista and my entire time have only had TWO things not work, my iPhone (which is entirely Apple's fault) and AVG (I had to switch to Avast)

Thats it... unless your using some legacy hardware, or hardware from a no name company nearly EVERYTHING is supported. And if your unsure just choose your parts then go to the manufacturers website and check if they have 64bit vista drivers.

Oh and about the upgrade you can buy the upgrade but still do a clean install from it. Not sure if were allowed to discuss how to do it though.
You can, I have posted the link a few times.. It's completely legit but it's a waste of time imo. Takes about 2 times longer than just regular install and really annoying.
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The only plus to the upgrade besides price is that compared to the OEM version you can legally move it to another PC. M$ also treats it like a retail version as far as support goes.
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post #20 of 32
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The only plus to the upgrade besides price is that compared to the OEM version you can legally move it to another PC. M$ also treats it like a retail version as far as support goes.
Google.com is the only support you will ever need... EVER with an OS.
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