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Scott Wasson - 11:09 pm, July 15, 2007

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True to its plan, Intel has officially taken the wraps off of a new lineup of Core 2 processors, most of which are intended to run at 1333MHz front-side bus speeds. Thanks to the magic of time travel, we've already covered these developments in some detail here at TR, most notably with our preview of the Core 2 Duo E6750 processor and our review of the chipset that Intel created to go along with it, the P35 Express. Cliff's Notes version: we found the faster bus to yield only minor, marginal performance gains with dual-core processors but expressed hope for larger improvements with quad-core CPUs.

Folks from Nvidia have been hiding in the bushes outside of my window for most of the past week, periodically whispering that their nForce 600i-series chipsets were designed to support 1333MHz bus speeds. They say boards based on their own nForce 680i reference design are only a BIOS flash away from glory. I say they need to get out of the bushes.

At any rate, here's the whole new lineup of Core 2 processors, complete with pricing:



Intel says power (TDP) ratings for these new chips are the same as those they replace.

The sharp-eyed reader may note that these introductions represent not just a bus speed increase, but also a drop in price. The Core 2 Duo E6700 had previously been priced at $316, but its successor, the E6750, lists at just $183. Looks like Intel's long-rumored deep price cuts are coming to pass. Dual-core variants of the Core 2 now top out at 3.0GHz—and just $266.

Rumor has it Intel will cut prices on existing models next week, causing the Core 2 Quad Q6600 to land at $266, as well. If that happens, folks, it'll be buyin' time.

The new lineup's flagship model is the Core 2 Extreme QX6850. We've had the QX6850 on the test bench here in Damage Labs, but due to other obligations, I wasn't able to finish up a review for the launch today. One of my reasons for waiting is my desire to throw out all of our existing CPU test results and start over with new hardware, fresh drivers, and updated tests. For now, our Core 2 Duo E6750 preview should give you a sense of what to expect from the faster bus.
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E6750 will be mine.
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This isn't really news. There are about hundreds of other threads about this topic. Even though the date are different, the point are still relevant.

Other than that. I might grab a Xeon X3220 or E6850
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What's the point of these chips again? Everyone who is OCing these are already running them way past 333MHz FSB. If fact, wouldn't the lower stock multi be worse for OCing than the old ones with the higher multi?
    
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What's the point of these chips again? Everyone who is OCing these are already running them way past 333MHz FSB. If fact, wouldn't the lower stock multi be worse for OCing than the old ones with the higher multi?
You bring about a good point, however, the G0 stepping on these allows for much higher FSB's. So the E6850 can accept a 440 FSB, the 6750 a 480 FSB, the 6550 a 510 FSB on air.

So the lower multi is made up for, not to mention they're DIRT CHEAP!

I think I'll buy X38 in the fall with a Conroe-L or E2160, then upgrade to yorkfield or wolfdale next year
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Some more info:

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While AMD AM2+ processors are due out in Q3, Intel announced another plan on price reduction just 3 months after the previous drop on April 22. With a remarkable cut at 50%, AMD is facing another harsh battle with Intel.

As reported before, Intel has had hinted a price drop in Q3, expecting a second price drop someday in August and September. However, the exact date turns out surprisingly on July 22 as the first hand information we have received. Undoubtedly, the move give certain impact on the sales of AMD processors. Not until the release of next-generation AM2+ processors, it’s hard for AMD to get profit from their existing products.


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What's the point of these chips again? Everyone who is OCing these are already running them way past 333MHz FSB. If fact, wouldn't the lower stock multi be worse for OCing than the old ones with the higher multi?
To be honest, I don't rate these new 1333FSB CPU's as being any different to their 1066FSB cousins. In my eyes there is no real difference between the E6600 and E6850. They both have the usual MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3 and EM64T. They're both dual core and they both have x9 multipliers.

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As a result, the FSB Wall has been pushed farther back and the overclocking results have improved significantly. For example, our overclocking experiments revealed that the new processors can work at 3.6-3.8GHz with traditional air-cooling onboard.

Gavrichenkov, I., 24/06/2007, New Member In Core 2 Duo Processor Family:
Introducing CPUs with 1333MHz Bus;
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu..._12.html#sect0
Accessed: 13/07/2007
As far as I'm concerned, the fact they're defaulted to 333FSB instead of 266FSB bears no real relevance as any E6600 reaches 333FSB without haveing to touch the vCore. Couple that with the fact that reviews say that these CPU's can overclock to 3.6Ghz to 3.8Ghz on air doesnt seem all that different either given my own, and a number of other member's, clocking results with the E6600.

I think existing Core 2 owners should be looking towards current Core 2 Quads or future Penryn's if they're looking to upgrade to something worthwhile.
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If you're looking for a worthwhile upgrade, wait for Penryn. The 45nm's run so cool that you'll be able to practically get 5+ GHz on air (probably with the stock cooler ).
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What a joke. All they have done is made a chip that has less room for OCing.
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What a joke. All they have done is made a chip that has less room for OCing.
Good marketing though. The Average buyer sees a higher speed and a lower price, they don't care about OC.
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