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My E6600 wouldn't run at 400 FSB

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First I want to say hi to all of you, this is my first post on this forum
here's my config:
CPU: Intel E6600
MoBo: ASUS P5B-DELUXE Wifi/AP
BIOS Version: 1001
Video Card: Inno3D 8800GTX
Sound Card: SB XiFi-Xtreme Music
RAM: Gskill 2GBPK CL4D (DDR2-800)
OS: WindowsXP SP-2
CPU Cooling: Zalman CNPS9700 NT

I had tried these settings, FSB 300 DRAM 600, and FSB 350 + DRAM 700, yes, my system can run with 350FSB, running ORTHOS 20 mintues without any problem, can pass the test of SuperPI (2M), 3dmark06 give me 10869 marks as the result, but the nightmare came to me.

After i think that it's the time to move on, i raise my FSB to 400, Multiper Ratio set to x8, DRAM set to 800, only change the vCore to 1.325V and the others are still set in "Auto", i can pass the test of ORTHOS (20 mintues) and SuperPI (2M) without any problem, but i can't run 3Dmark06, guess what, i got 8 FPS in the first test, i was shocked, how could i get such a bad performance while i can run 3dmark06 without any problem with FSB 350x9 ? then, i try to reboot my system, but it can't enter the windows again, and the second time, it even reboot at the BIOS screen, the third time, OH NO, my PC can't boot up, I swith off my system, clear the CMOS, and set everything back to stock, i was quite afraid and worry about my hardware were damaged, this is what i saw in EVEREST before i reboot my system.

VGA temp: 78c ( running 3dmark06 can go up to 80~81C )
CPU temp: 64c ( Full load )
CPU Core1 and Core2 : 68~69c ( Full load )
MotherBoard Temp: 50c (Full load )
My 2 HDD: both of them are in 48c
Vcore: 1.325 in BIOS but i saw 1.28 in the windows

Any help or suggestions are welcome, and thank you.
    
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im suprised you could even pass orthos at 400fsb with no vcore increase. i would try raising the vcore, and MAYBE the fsb and NB voltages and see what happens. those temps are high too btw
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im suprised you could even pass orthos at 400fsb with no vcore increase. i would try raising the vcore, and MAYBE the fsb and NB voltages and see what happens. those temps are high too btw
Tried setting the Vcore to 1.35V wouldn't help, the system can't boot up, or say, when i power on my PC, it shut down within 2 seconds, which made me very worry about it, and, you mean the temp of my system are high? everything? since I'm new to overclock, i don't know that, just know that my CPU is at it's limit, this is why I'm am not going to OC my E6600 to 400x9, any help and suggestions are welcome, and thanks for the help.
    
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The P5B has a Strap change at 400mhz. Try 401 to 405, you may find that it works a bit better. Although with the strap change, you may loos some memory bandwidth, but you may find that running a bit above 400 is much easier than running at 400. BTW, what HSF are you running. Those temps are kind of high, especially for anything below 1.4vcore.

Edit: NVM, I see you are running the Zalman, those temps just seem high for your vcore, double check how your HSF is mounted.
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did you manually set your PCI-E to run at 100?

PS most people with E6600s are unable to get a reliable 400 FSB with air cooling.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrBungle View Post
did you manually set your PCI-E to run at 100?

PS most people with E6600s are unable to get a reliable 400 FSB with air cooling.
400 X 8 is only 3.2Ghz. He should not have a problem with that. 400mhz is not a good spot on the P5B-Deluxe motherboards. You realy need to go down or up. I run at 405~415 X 8 on my Q6600s with the P5B-Deluxe on air cooling. He should be able to do that with his E6600, with better temps than he is getting.
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sorry, i wasn't trying to imply he can't get 400x8. my words, they're not always clear. i was talking about E6600s with their stock multi at 400 FSB. you just don't see them very often, even on this site.

anyway, i have his exact motherboard and it loves 400FSB. i've been running mine for months with super low temps and 100% stability. i don't want to go to 401 because of the strap change.

i asked about his PCI-E frequency because he was stable on all benchmarks but 3DMark. if his PCI-E was set to Auto, it might have gotten jacked up when he OC'ed the processor.
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sorry, i wasn't trying to imply he can't get 400x8. my words, they're not always clear. i was talking about E6600s with their stock multi at 400 FSB. you just don't see them very often, even on this site.

anyway, i have his exact motherboard and it loves 400FSB. i've been running mine for months with super low temps and 100% stability. i don't want to go to 401 because of the strap change.

i asked about his PCI-E frequency because he was stable on all benchmarks but 3DMark. if his PCI-E was set to Auto, it might have gotten jacked up when he OC'ed the processor.
If you can run at 400FSB, you are right, that is better performance. And I can see how 400 X 9 would be much harder, especially without bumping his vcore, than 400 X 8. He should check his PCI-E frequency for sure, but dont you think his temps are mighty high for stock vcore? Especially with aftermarket cooling.
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Did you apply any thermal paste when you installed your HSF?
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If you can run at 400FSB, you are right, that is better performance. And I can see how 400 X 9 would be much harder, especially without bumping his vcore, than 400 X 8. He should check his PCI-E frequency for sure, but dont you think his temps are mighty high for stock vcore? Especially with aftermarket cooling.
not only was his CPU temp high, but his motherboard temp was really high as well. his V-Core was right where it needed to be. i have all my volts set manually though. i suppose that could have something to do with it. i don't trust auto for volts or frequencies ever.

i don't remember the settings for all my volts, but the BIOS color codes it for all us dummies. i think yellow is lower than stock, blue is stock, pink is higher than stock, red is for high volts. in my BIOS, everything is blue except the CPU (which is yellow. i only run my v-core at 1.3) and my memory, which is at its stock 2.0V. the BIOS has my memory volts as pink or red because it's stupid.
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