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DX10 is a financial design more than a functional design...
Now people have to buy Vista so Bill can make more billions ... DUH!
    
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I reserve any judgment I have about DX10 until a company like Valve, that can REALLY write game code, releases a title.

Eyecandy vs. FPS performance has a lot more to do with optimizing game code than it does with hardware.

Case in point: HL2 vs. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. - Shadow of Chernobyl. HL2 has exquisite graphics, yet can be played on systems with rather low end hardware and still pump out acceptable framerates. Were you to try that with S.T.A.L.K.E.R., you would be rewarded with a very pretty slide show, but nothing that really looks any better than HL2.
^^^
HL2 has incredible graphics yet it only takes an 80$(X850XT) VGA card from 05' to play it maxed out.
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post #33 of 51
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Originally Posted by The Duke View Post
DX10 is a financial design more than a functional design...
Now people have to buy Vista so Bill can make more billions ... DUH!
TU-SHAY!

What will make more money...
not
What will make a better gaming experience for gamers...

Think about it...
in order to play a proper DX10 game...(when it comes)
your gona need Windows Vista...
your gona need The latest DX10 card...
ALSO
for most people that will mean they need to upgrade their WHOLE system from motherboard to ram and CPU...

So instead of mibi just needing a new processor or a new graphics card...
joe bloggs that wants to upgrade his decent specd PC has to spend a bloody fortune!

For some on here with endless wallets, who keep their systems up to date as humanly possible, this will not affect them...
but for the average person, the cost to upgrade to a DX10 system will just be too much for them...

i am not a dx10 basher or hardware upgrade basher...
i am all for progress....
i just think too much has come out at once in such a short period...
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post #34 of 51
You can't please everyone.

Me I wish they had games that were alot more demanding and realistic, real looking environments and would happily spend 1000 on a Cpu and then another 2000 on cards to play these super games.

Its almost like the people who dont or won't upgrade hold the others back....developers constantly having to think about some guy with a 6800 and a p3 needs to be able able to play this.


Anytime I see someone post about how rubbish a game looks and theyre not running a minimum of 1600 x 1200 and full AA, I take it with a grain of salt.

Its like asking a cab driver to talk about his favourite features of a porsche...
post #35 of 51
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Originally Posted by cognoscenti View Post
You can't please everyone.

Me I wish they had games that were alot more demanding and realistic, real looking environments and would happily spend 1000 on a Cpu and then another 2000 on cards to play these super games.

Its almost like the people who dont or won't upgrade hold the others back....developers constantly having to think about some guy with a 6800 and a p3 needs to be able able to play this.


Anytime I see someone post about how rubbish a game looks and theyre not running a minimum of 1600 x 1200 and full AA, I take it with a grain of salt.

Its like asking a cab driver to talk about his favourite features of a porsche...
if u don't mind, can u transfer some of that cash to my pay pal account...lol

but this push to have the latest/newest thing/gadet even though most of the time its not really needed is gona hurt us in the long run...

(metaphor mode now...lol)
rather than buying better fitted furniture / building an extension for ur house..
knocking down and just building a bigger house seems to be the answer these days...
in the end...your gona be left with a lot of left overs no body wants, which is just waste...

its def the case with gaming pc's..the minute you buy a card at £300, not even 6 months later its less than half the price as somethin "new and improved" is out...


(look at the PS2...same piece of hardware for x amount of years developed gd gaming and solid graphics for a good amount of time..think how many upgrades your pc went through from the launch of the ps2 to the ps3

idealy i would like to see Gaming PC's more like upgradable games consoles...
with the gaming PC only needing major upgrades say when ever SONY or MS decide to bring out a new console...rather than every 3 months....
that way you can either spend £400 on a console OR £500 on GPU and CPU's for the same level of gaming graphics....
gaming on PC's is the flag ship of gaming still...
but it can still be the flag ship without emptying your wallet every 3 moths....


with more productive games develpoment getting the most out of the current hardware rather than always running on the very best of tomorrows stuff...
lots more people would then prob use PC's to game on as they would not be affraid that there 1k pc is gona be out of date by the time they upack everything....

anyways...i have totaly forgot what i was talking about now...
i am now gona go back to work...lol
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post #36 of 51
Yea in RTS, but have any of you guys seen the difference in Crysis DX9/DX10 video comparisons? Give it some time. THese programmers need to get on the ball.
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post #37 of 51
Notice the title of the article 'Adding DX10'. I bet building from DX10 will do something.
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Originally Posted by binormalkilla View Post
Yea it RTS, but have any of you guys seen the difference in Crysis DX9/DX10 video comparisons? Give it some time. THese programmers need to get on the ball.
Exactly, just look at how long it too games to become multi-threaded, programming takes time, especially uncharted territory like directx 10.
    
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post #39 of 51
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Originally Posted by cognoscenti View Post
You can't please everyone.

Me I wish they had games that were alot more demanding and realistic, real looking environments and would happily spend 1000 on a Cpu and then another 2000 on cards to play these super games.

Its almost like the people who dont or won't upgrade hold the others back....developers constantly having to think about some guy with a 6800 and a p3 needs to be able able to play this.


Anytime I see someone post about how rubbish a game looks and theyre not running a minimum of 1600 x 1200 and full AA, I take it with a grain of salt.

Its like asking a cab driver to talk about his favourite features of a porsche...
Well developers don't have to sacrifice graphics when they're optimizing a game. Here:
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Originally Posted by Witchfire View Post
Eyecandy vs. FPS performance has a lot more to do with optimizing game code than it does with hardware.

Case in point: HL2 vs. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. - Shadow of Chernobyl. HL2 has exquisite graphics, yet can be played on systems with rather low end hardware and still pump out acceptable framerates. Were you to try that with S.T.A.L.K.E.R., you would be rewarded with a very pretty slide show, but nothing that really looks any better than HL2.
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It may be expensive to upgrade now, but in 3 years it will be just as cheap as a common dx9 system is now...around 800 bucks.
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