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Hello there avid overclockers,

My first post here, decided to finally make the plunge and get involved with overclocking, rather than just sit on the sidelines and play spectator.

Overclocking my pc is something i've been meaning to learn how to do, but never really tooka passion for it. But as i said, i'm going to try and play around. But i need a bit of help.

As my comment should *hopefully* say, i have a e6300 Conroe, with 2gb ram (linky) on a Asus P5B Mobo.

As i understand it, i adjust the FSB to increase the clock speeds. But i'm befuddled as to what i need to do with the RAM, and also unsure of the options in BIOS to play around with on my particular board.

I will post links to CPU-Z screenshots below.

CPU
Cache
Mainboard
Memory
SPD#1
SPD#3

I believe my Heatsink(OEM) may not be seated right, or its not flat as my TaT is reporting 45-50 idle. I am about to check and reseat it, whilst i choose a new one and wait for it too arrive. On that note any suggestions on a smallish budget?

Many thanks.
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post #2 of 13
well with the ram it the goal to keep it around its stock speed, but with your ram being 800 your good up to 400 fsb umm hopefully this helps,
for a heat sink these work well just add a good one or two 120mm fans
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post #3 of 13
And also as reported by another member, TaT's aren't the best reads, you should use the T_case.

http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/...about-tat.html
    
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post #4 of 13
I can foresee you getting frustrated with temps on the stock cooler, so if I were you I'd get one of these as a precaution:

http://www.microdirect.co.uk/(15491)...PU-Cooler.aspx

With a fan (120mm I think) you'll have some fun with that 6300
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post #5 of 13
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Will that Scythe Ninja fit in a Antec 900 case do you know?

I'm definately in the market to get a new cooler now, as despite reseating it a few times, it was still idling at mid 40's. I think one of the legs isn't locking properly.

Thinking of getting a Ultra-120 maybe? I hate decisions!

Back to the overclocking when i get a new cooler, from the pics i posted above, will i need to do anything to the bios with relation to the memory?
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post #6 of 13
At this point I doubt it, your memory should be good enough to go quite aways, if you start having issues with the memory, you can always change the ration to something like 4:3 FSBRAM or something, or even unlink it if you had to, but I don't think that will be an issue for you.
    
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post #7 of 13
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Sorry for the slow response. Life caught up with me.

I have just recieved and fitted an Ultra-120, and i'm very impressed with it. Temperatures are idling between 20-30c. Money well spent in my opinion.

However, with regards back to the overclocking. What do the SPD and Memory tabs in CPU-Z indicate? as looking at the screenshots as i posted above, they both say 2 different things. one says 5-5-5-18@2T, the other 4-4-4-12@2T. Is something not quite configured right? or is that just "how things are"

Thanks.
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post #8 of 13
That just means that the memory came stock with the timings set for 4-4-4-12 and the computer has auto set the timings to the 5-5-5-18, since the speed is still 400MHz, you should be able to tighten the timings back up manually to 4-4-4-12 without too much of an issue.
    
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post #9 of 13
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Ok i have tried (i think, the Bios confuses me ) to set my timings to 4-4-4-12 however it fails to post.

I have my FSB running at 400x7 at 1:1 timings. Giving me an OC of 2800.

Where should i go now? Keep increasing just the FSB? or do i need to do something else as the ram is at technically its max now.

Interestingly, i set my RAM at set by SPD when it wasn't posting, and its now set at 5-6-6-18 according to CPU-Z. Should i be worried about those timings?

At these numbers my Core is at 35c under 100% load (Orthos StressCPU) according to Core Temp 0.95
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post #10 of 13
It's all a matter of what you want, what is your memory frequency at? I'm confused as to why you can't tighten up your timings and then getting a POST.
    
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