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hehe...I'll enlighten a little. Lots of attackers send a first attack in using a simple email or via http. Once in, and if it still is "alive", it looks for weakness or vulnerbilities in ports. If it finds a port that open it can help keep it open for the real attack. using http and html formats makes it hard for sucurity software to tell the difference between normal trafic and the evil crap. This is probally the most common network attack today.

This is pretty much impossible to do by your self, but if you have several people at serveral different machines you can in essence hammer your way in. That's why these reports always say "hackers" and not hackers.

And by the way these were not hackers...these were crackers...big difference.
I know that with Utorrent via the browser you can check for opened ports. I checked a few that random numbers and they were open... Can a hacker "infiltrate" my PC via that port?

Is there any real way to really just take control of a PC like this? That's the only thing I can imagine will hurt the DOT. Possibly take control of a few traffic lights?
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No hacker or cracker will ever really take control of a computer. That's like walking into a room and screaming that you've entered. They'll just a few things running in te back ground of the back ground. Stuff like leaving back doors on ports so that if a scan is done it looks like the port is blocked but yet they have the ability to open it from outside the network.

Attacks like this they are after one thing...personal information. I remember back in the glory days of hacking/phreaking that you could log into chat rooms and find people trading/selling credit card numbers and bank accounts. And I'd bet we'd all be surprised at how much of that type of info the DoT keeps around.

And in theory...yes a hacker could get into any open port. However, if you keep the number of ports down then there is an almost 100% chance that your router firewall will stop them...unless they are very good. There are people out there that can walk into any system on the net reguardless of security...and most of them are 12 years old.
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All I can say is: lol.

Not even going to get into it, not worth it.
Seriously, please tell me. You're talking a lot of smack, but you aren't even defending anything. It IS possible to hack the gov and not get caught. I was just responding to the guy who said someone can get out of a network without leaving ANYTHING behind. That's rediculous.
    
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No hacker or cracker will ever really take control of a computer. That's like walking into a room and screaming that you've entered. They'll just a few things running in te back ground of the back ground. Stuff like leaving back doors on ports so that if a scan is done it looks like the port is blocked but yet they have the ability to open it from outside the network.

Attacks like this they are after one thing...personal information. I remember back in the glory days of hacking/phreaking that you could log into chat rooms and find people trading/selling credit card numbers and bank accounts. And I'd bet we'd all be surprised at how much of that type of info the DoT keeps around.

And in theory...yes a hacker could get into any open port. However, if you keep the number of ports down then there is an almost 100% chance that your router firewall will stop them...unless they are very good. There are people out there that can walk into any system on the net reguardless of security...and most of them are 12 years old.
+ Rep just because you have explained some things to me that I never new.

Anyway 12 years old lawls You're not serious are you?

I wouldn't want a 12 year old hacking my PC and getting any CC info.

Unless you are talking about the 12 year olds that send out keyloggers .-.
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Seriously, please tell me. You're talking a lot of smack, but you aren't even defending anything. It IS possible to hack the gov and not get caught. I was just responding to the guy who said someone can get out of a network without leaving ANYTHING behind. That's rediculous.
Vag explained it a bit
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OK, who's the smart guy who rep'd me lol. Whoever it is, I can't answer your question, your definitely in the wrong forum buddy !
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Seriously, please tell me. You're talking a lot of smack, but you aren't even defending anything. It IS possible to hack the gov and not get caught. I was just responding to the guy who said someone can get out of a network without leaving ANYTHING behind. That's rediculous.
How am I talking smack? I'm saying the same thing that guy is. I've been around various OSes for years, I know this.

For example, it's relatively easy. Like I said, if you're smart enough to get in, you're smart enough to get out without leaving anything behind. What did I mean? I mean that same guy can just get in, disable the logging mechanism, and delete all copies of the log. Hell, he can even write a small script to delete any copies that he couldn't find (if they were pulled out of backup or something). Take my word for it, it's entirely possible.

Thanks Storm, pretty good run down. Only problem with that is, if theyre 12, then I HIGHLY doubt they know how to program on their own. It takes a looot of time to develop that kind of intimate knowledge, just filling you in on that. In all honesty though, who knows, things might have changed in time.
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OK, who's the smart guy who rep'd me lol. Whoever it is, I can't answer your question, your definitely in the wrong forum buddy !
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What was this rep?
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You don't want to know lol, trust me
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Phone taps? I'm in Canada! Your government can't do it to me!

I'll even haxx ur n00b g0v7!.
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