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Seeming you've been through 8 formats, tons of dual core optimizing guides, cs:s guides blah blah ect ect, your problem is probably hardware related. Unless it's some really stupid setting you have turned off or on that is causing this whole mess hehe. Like I said, try a different pci-e card (preferably 7600GT and up) and see if you still experience these issues. I know that might be hard but it's a get way to troubleshoot.
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Yep I am. Here's a bit of what happened.

Remote Assistance consistently fails. We tried maybe 15 times or more. When my firewall is down he can always connect to me. I've connected to him by chance only once. Never again.

When playing CS: Source, some of his packets are dropped based on how things go in the game. I shoot him and I know I did, but it doesn't register. This could also be because my connection is way slower than his, but that aside, I did see him teleport once while playing.

Another thing to backup the dropped packets, we did a "ping -t" to www.google.com.jm - a server far enough away to provide some feedback. Out of 158 packets he dropped one. Maybe insignificant, but for a ping averaging 54 he shouldn't. Mine was 177 packets with an average of 131 ping and no dropped packets at all.

At this point I have a few suggestions, but unless I have the PC in my posession I wont be able to give something concrete.

I'd suggest removal of all components and then transfer to a new case, put back the components in the same case very carefully and one at a time, or - my fav. - run the machine outside of the case. Get something that is non-conductive like the foam packaging for the mobo, and place it on it. Then connect power/CPU and HDD and run it completely out of the box. It'll have all the airflow for cooling and no risks of being shorted out on anything. If the problem is still there (maybe another reinstall in this environment) then there's something messing with him on his SW disks, or his hardware needs some re-vamping.

I also think his network may be contributing to the whole issue, especially due to the whole remote assistance issue - with BOTH our firewalls completely off - and still I couldn't get to his machine.

If someone else would like a hit at connecting to his machine, then be my guest. The last thing to try would probably be enabling remote connections and forwarding the ports for REMOTE DESKTOP and seeing if you can get in that way. We may try this method tomorrow and see how it works out.

Any other suggestions are welcome. Please at least browse the previous posts first before posting to get an example of what we've tried.

*EDIT*
I think we found it. I managed to connect to the machine on one of our last attempts. While looking through some graphics settings we realized that the BUS is running at 8X and not 16X (PCI-E for his graph card). Not familiar with this board, so can anyone say if it has a BIOS setting to change the graph slot speed? Thanx.

[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t263/khat17/***LOL.jpg[/IMG]

*EDIT*
Downloaded the manual for the 2 boards of the same type, since I wasn't sure which one he was using. Anyways, both manuals say that only the first PCIE slot can be used for full 16x graphics, since the second slot only runs at 1x by default. Incidentally, he said he's been using the second slot because the first one humbugs his reach to the memory when he needs access. He also doesn't recall if it was running at 16x when in the top slot, so he's gonna check and let me know. Will post how it turns out at that time.

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I put it in the other slot, runs at x16, but its just as choppy, I had it in that first slot when I first got my motherboard, but I kept having to change the ram and it began to annoy me, so I just put it in the second slot. I hate this problem rofl.
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post #144 of 643
It doesnt surprise me that it runs the same in the second slot.
8x is PLENTLY of basndwidth for a system like that to cope with (ie, run the game properly).

As for the network latencies khat saw - I guess those should be relevent to online play..
but I remember you saying that it ran choppy even in single player when I asked.

Quick question - are your north and south bridges (chipset(s)) hot to the touch? - you should check that out (first on the desktop - then in game).

But something just tells me that the problem you're having is with how your driver is tellng your card to operate.
When you say that your friend has teh exact same config, do you mean CPU and MOtherboard (and ideally, RAM) as well as the EXACT, SAME GPU?

Anywho - we should try to get a more detailed look at how your card is operating, and the registry environment of the driver.

Download Rivatuner, and install it.
Let it do its initial detections.. and when thats all donw - we'll look through some of the settings.

I'm especially interested in the 2d/3d power saving .. options (following thinker's line of thought )
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Ya Grim I heard some users talk about " low power 3d mode " but I think thats just the card underclocking when its Idle in windows. My 7900GS will go from 500mhz clock to 450mhz and the memory will go from 690mhz to 600mhz. But as soon as I fire up a game it goes to stock. This is what I believe most people called "low power 3d mode". I could be wrong hehe.

I still wish Neo had a 2nd pci-e card laying around that he could try
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Alright when I said my friend had nearly the same setup I meant that he has an AM2 system, running at 2.1GHz, 2gb of ram, when I have 2.5, and a 7950gt oc 256mb. So I should actually be running better than he is. I'll re-download riva-tuner, had it a while ago but I didn't care for it much, only downloaded it because I thought my 6800gs might have had some unlocked pixels or w/e. And my friend is going to give me his x1300 for free whenever he finds it, so maybe I can do some trouble shooting with that if he finds it before you guys solve my problem.
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Alright I just installed Riva tuner, what shall I do?
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I was just browsing through my video card settings, is Hardware Acceleration supposed to be on Full? I think it is but I'm not sure.
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it should be on full yes.
btw,i think its the winXP thats f'd up!borrow your freinds version just to troubleshoot.
    
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Pang, thats a good idea.

Neo, did you try flashing to the 0502 bios yet?

*edit* Neo you said you did disable the onboard sound (AC97) in the bios?
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