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I'm planning on buying a new computer and I want it to last around 3-4 years (doesn't have to run everything at max settings after a few years).
Though this is my first time putting together a computer and I don't want to spend money on things I don't need. I don't really plan on overclocking it because I have no knowledge of overclocking, but I can learn ofcourse.

Specs:
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E6850 (€279,-)
I know the E6600 is a very good choice as well but since I don't know anything about overclocking I think it would be wise to buy a config that runs great on stock as well. This is open for discussion.

Asus P5K (€129,-)
I have no knowledge of motherboards but I was recommended thismotherboard by a shop, before telling him that I wanted to have 2 HDDs running in RAID0, and then he told me that this motherboard has no usable raid controller and that I should buy a P5K-E. Is this true?

2x Samsung SpinPoint T133 400GB (2x €79,-)
I want to use this in RAID0. I just chose this HDD because I got several suggestions about not taking Seagate but using something else instead and this was in a best-buy guide on a popular Dutch PC website. Please correct me on this if there are better buys out there.

OCZ 2 GB DDR2-800 Kit (€99,-)
CAS Latency (CL) = 4
RAS-to-CAS-Delay (tRCD) = 4
RAS-Precharge-Time (tRP) = 4
Row-Active-Time (tRAS) = 15

I don't know anything about RAM timings and I just took this one because it's dual channel PC6400 memory for only 99 euros. If this is a crap deal or the timings are ****ty, please let me know.

Club 3D 8800 GTX (€499,-)
I really want a gaming machine and I guess if I want it to last a few years then I shouldn't be greedy on the video card. I chose for Club 3D because I heard some good stuff about it and other than that.. I was told it doesn't really matter.

Antec Nine Hundred €99,-
It was in the best-buy guide I mentioned earlier and I thought it looked nice as well. Open for discussion.

Thermaltake Toughpower €99,-
Always heard nothing but praise about Thermaltake and with its 600W I think it should be sufficient since I'm not planning on running SLI any time soon anyway.

LG GSA-H55NR (€39,-)
Why I chose this.. No idea. Never had any problems with LG (except my last DVDRW was destroyed because a CD exploded inside of it..?) and it's pretty cheap I think so no real thought behind that.

Total price: €1.401,- from a Dutch webstore called Alternate.

That's around $1935 (USD).

Is this a good deal, or the best I can affort for this money anyway? I'd like to spend around €1100,- on this rig but since it's a few years investment I don't want to go cheap on it either. I hope you guys can help me build the best possible solution

Thanks for your time and I'm looking forward to some enlightening replies

Banjer
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Core 2 Duo E6850 @ 3.6Ghz GigaByte GA-P35C-DS3R XFX Geforce 8800GTS 640MB @ 692/1066 G.E.I.L 2048MB PC8500 CL4 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
2x Seagate Barracude 7200.10 500GB Windows Vista Home Premium 32bit (Dutch) Samsung SynMaster 940BF MX3200 Keyboard & Mouse set 
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Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
2x Seagate Barracude 7200.10 500GB Windows Vista Home Premium 32bit (Dutch) Samsung SynMaster 940BF MX3200 Keyboard & Mouse set 
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post #2 of 14
looks alrite to me.
    
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post #3 of 14
It look really good. However about motherboard, you should PM Cyberdruid as he have a lot of experiences with P5K.

Also.. wait for Chozart!

DH
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post #4 of 14
Thread Starter 
Alright thanks for your replies
I'll wait for more as you suggested.
Also, is the price okay or should I be able to get off like 200euros or whatever? If I have to buy it overseas to save like 150 dollars then it just isn't worth it for me service-wise.
My GAME-rig
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Core 2 Duo E6850 @ 3.6Ghz GigaByte GA-P35C-DS3R XFX Geforce 8800GTS 640MB @ 692/1066 G.E.I.L 2048MB PC8500 CL4 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
2x Seagate Barracude 7200.10 500GB Windows Vista Home Premium 32bit (Dutch) Samsung SynMaster 940BF MX3200 Keyboard & Mouse set 
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OCZ GameXStream 600W Antec Nine Hundred 
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Core 2 Duo E6850 @ 3.6Ghz GigaByte GA-P35C-DS3R XFX Geforce 8800GTS 640MB @ 692/1066 G.E.I.L 2048MB PC8500 CL4 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
2x Seagate Barracude 7200.10 500GB Windows Vista Home Premium 32bit (Dutch) Samsung SynMaster 940BF MX3200 Keyboard & Mouse set 
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OCZ GameXStream 600W Antec Nine Hundred 
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post #5 of 14
I cannot calculate exact values but IMO it is worth your while to buy from US.
    
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320GB Maxtor SATA2, 160 for XP, 160 for Slackware DVD+-RW EIDE 21" CRT by Sun Microsystems 680W Echostar 22A on 12V rail 
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320GB Maxtor SATA2, 160 for XP, 160 for Slackware DVD+-RW EIDE 21" CRT by Sun Microsystems 680W Echostar 22A on 12V rail 
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post #6 of 14
looks great, just make sure you research each item thoroughly.

Don't worry about RAID, it really doesn't effect things. If you are using the computer for atleast 3-4 years then disk failure could be an issue, and RAID0 just doubles that risk. Stick with 2x400 gig storage disks in no RAID configuration.

if you want some good RAM, get this stuff, I like it and is pretty quick:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231114

you should be able to find it other places other than the US

xoxide.com might be a good place to look, they only sell cases, PSU's, and cooling stuff, but you might get some good deals there.
    
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post #7 of 14
Try finding better ram. OCZ 667-800mhz is bad, their PC2 8500+ is good.
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Caviar Black 1TB Crucial MX100 250Gb Win7 Ultimate 64Bit Insignia 1080p 32" 
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post #8 of 14
I don't know but I would suggest getting the q6600 quad core processor now that it has dropped in price and is cheaper than the one you have listed if your price is still current... and a board that supports quad core like http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131177 this one which supports raid... and if i'm not mistaken is listed cheaper as well.
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E6600 GIGABYTE GA-P35C-DS3R 8800 GTS 640mb 4 GB Mushkin DDR2 
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post #9 of 14
Thread Starter 
Thanks for replies.

@trueg50
For me 400gb is enough in a computer (I have been using 120HD for 4 years now, hasn't been a REAL issue, at least 2x 120GB and I'm set)
The only reason I plan on buying 2 HDDs is because of the RAID0 since I was told by several people that with a system like this, the HDD will be the bottleneck unless I put them in RAID0, was this false information?

@Lelin
In this store I can get PC2 8500 with CL5 5-5-15 for twice the price of my current memory selection, is that worth it?

@P3rsian
I think the quadcore is more useful for people who go 3d rendering and video encoding, I will only use this for heavy-duty work game-wise and I don't do anything else. I've read some reviews in which they say a dualcore will be much more efficient for that purpose. What do you think?
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Core 2 Duo E6850 @ 3.6Ghz GigaByte GA-P35C-DS3R XFX Geforce 8800GTS 640MB @ 692/1066 G.E.I.L 2048MB PC8500 CL4 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
2x Seagate Barracude 7200.10 500GB Windows Vista Home Premium 32bit (Dutch) Samsung SynMaster 940BF MX3200 Keyboard & Mouse set 
PowerCase
OCZ GameXStream 600W Antec Nine Hundred 
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Core 2 Duo E6850 @ 3.6Ghz GigaByte GA-P35C-DS3R XFX Geforce 8800GTS 640MB @ 692/1066 G.E.I.L 2048MB PC8500 CL4 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
2x Seagate Barracude 7200.10 500GB Windows Vista Home Premium 32bit (Dutch) Samsung SynMaster 940BF MX3200 Keyboard & Mouse set 
PowerCase
OCZ GameXStream 600W Antec Nine Hundred 
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post #10 of 14
Well, the E6850 would be fast, but an E6600 could certainly compete with it in most apps. However, movie editing and photo editing and the lot will probably be the apps that convert over to quad core long before games do. I believe the new Photoshop is already optimized for 8 cores, since it runs on Octo-Core Macs, and I'm sure most high end video editing software either already uses quad core, or will very soon. There are already games, however, that utilize 2 cores fully, and then you can still listen to music or fold while gaming with no negative performance difference. If he only does 1 thing at a time, dual core may be better, but if he multi-tasks quad core may be a better, and more future proof, option.
    
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Intel 600p m.2 512GB Crucial M500 SSD 960GB Toshiba X300 HDD 3TB LG Blu Ray Burner 
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Cooler Master Nepton 240m Windows 10 Pro Samsung 34" Curved Ultrawide (3440x1440) Samsung 22" Portrait (1080x1920) 
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Poker II Cherry MX Brown, KBParadise V80 Cherry... EVGA G2 650W Cooler Master Silencio 652s Steelseries Sensei Wireless 
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