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lol ATI and Nvidia both have there strengths and weekensses, they are both good cards. It comes down to a matter of persinal choice.

I think i have found the card i want to run LINK
They are $150.00 CND each. I can buy one and add another at a latter date. The only downside is they are passive cooling, wich means im goning to have to install a fan in the door of my case to aid in cooling or find a way to mount a fan on that HS.
    
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Honestly, for DX10 the 8600GT is going to be a weak card and it isn't that much better at DX9 than let's say a 7900GS. But it is a matter of cost to performance ratio. Don't forget to figure in some cooling for that 8600GT.
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the 8800gts superclocked (or not) 320mb gets my vote
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lol ATI and Nvidia both have there strengths and weekensses, they are both good cards. It comes down to a matter of persinal choice.

I think i have found the card i want to run LINK
They are $150.00 CND each. I can buy one and add another at a latter date. The only downside is they are passive cooling, wich means im goning to have to install a fan in the door of my case to aid in cooling or find a way to mount a fan on that HS.
GOOD CHOICE.


Don't listen to people trash-talking a card that they don't own and probably have never even seen in person. If you think benchmarks mean anything, go ahead and take a peek at Tom's video charts... they show 9fps outdoors in Oblivion for a card I get 25fps using the same settings.

I have owned the x1950pro and the 7900GT. The 7900GS OC's like mad, but the 8600GT OC's even better. IMO for $100 there is no better card you can buy right now than the 8600GT, and with what I just saw in the news section there is a pretty darn good chance that if you add a second one later on down the road it will be able to run the first round of DX10 titles fairly decently, while costing only 2/3 as much as an 8800 total.

I hate having to be the savior of the 8600GT the last week or so, but to those people running around to every thread and bashing it at every possible oppurtunity... What does it matter to you???? Stop running around and giving crap advice to people and advising them to spend money they don't have just so they won't buy a card that you don't personally like.
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humm 7900 series is tempting as it is a proven card. Still think the 8600Gt is the way to go though, although it my be a bit slugglish now, with driver optimazion comming soon (hopefully) it will preform better
    
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humm 7900 series is tempting as it is a proven card. Still think the 8600Gt is the way to go though, although it my be a bit slugglish now, with driver optimazion comming soon (hopefully) it will preform better
If the 8600GT is sluggish it is hard for me to understand why it gets higher framreates in Oblivion than my 7900GT did...
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from what I have read, the real issue is DX9. If you plan on using vista then the midrange 8 series cards are hot stuff, but playing against a X1900 type card in a DX9 environment then the ATI is better. I think it goes something like this, 8 series cards are built for DX10, that is where they shine; otherwise seriously consider getting something else.
Not really. The 8800s have better performance than every single DX9 based card to come out before them in DX9 with the exception of 8800GTS 320mb vs. the 7950GX2 and x1950xtx at high resolutions. The 8600s seemed at first to be lackluster performers but new drivers and their huge overclock potential has changed that outlook. If you can swing the extra cash get an 8800GTS they are extremely powerful cards. If you can't quite afford one the 7900GS is a very fast card for the money especially if you buy them second hand and overclock it. Two of them together in SLI actually offer the best performance in their price range.
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Not really. The 8800s have better performance than every single DX9 based card to come out before them in DX9 with the exception of 8800GTS 320mb vs. the 7950GX2 and x1950xtx at high resolutions. The 8600s seemed at first to be lackluster performers but new drivers and their huge overclock potential has changed that outlook. If you can swing the extra cash get an 8800GTS they are extremely powerful cards. If you can't quite afford one the 7900GS is a very fast card for the money especially if you buy them second hand and overclock it. Two of them together in SLI actually offer the best performance in their price range.
I pretty much agree with your whole post.

Drivers definitely improved the performance of the 8600's... obviously the stigma which they accrued at release has not left them yet though.

I would only buy a 7900GS if I got it second hand for CHEAP (as in <$80). As I said before I owned a 7900GT which has four extra pipes and overclocked it still couldn't keep up with the performance of this OC'ed 8600 I now have, which was $105 after rebate. The cheapest I've EVER seen an 8800GTS was the PNY 320mb I got for $225 shipped from another forum before I had my evga 640mb. If you can find a 320mb for <$250 that would be your best bet. Any more than that an I would buy an 8600 and wait.

Look at it this way... a few more months and Nvidia will be releasing their next high end lineup, causing the 8800's prices to fall. The 8600's will still be the current mid cards until early next year and shouldn't drop in price much, so if you buy one now when the new high end is released you probably can get rid of the 8600 for close to what you paid for it. Then you can buy one of the 8800's or lower next-gen high end and be $50-100 ahead of the game.

I LOVED my 8800 640mb, but I am very happy that I sold it for a profit, and used that to get an 8600. Because of that decision I will be in an advantageous financial position when the next release happens.

edit: Not to mention which with a cheap card I am in a very mobile position if the 8800's turn out not to cut the mustard for the first round of DX10 titles... People that kept theirs won't be able to get rid of them quick enough and the used card market will saturate. I could end up buying back the same card I used to have in three months at a $100+ profit.
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