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post #21 of 33
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Originally Posted by Dezixn View Post
Every component of a PC is becoming more and more efficient just about.

Oh wait, Nvidia and ATI aren't even trying to make an attempt at this! They are going the other way! Get on the bandwagon Nvidia and ATI.

Indeed
Hence the reason I am happy I was forced due to financial reasons to switch to an 8600GT from my 8800GTS. My system noise and heat level went from "Hairdryer" back to "Pocket fan"
post #22 of 33
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Nonsense. They're on the bandwagon. Every generation, performance goes up ~40% while leaving the power usage the same. But they also make faster cards for people like you.
Pretty sure power consumption goes UP rather than staying the same, especially in the higher end market. Remember the days when you could simply put a GPU in your PCI slot, AGP slot, or even PCIe slot without having to plug in an extra cable?

Even enthusiast CPUs run cooler and way more efficient than older enthusiast CPUs.

My point is the GPU makers are lagging behind in the power consumption / efficiency section while nearly every other product is striving to become better. *80% efficiency PSUs, DDR3, 45nm CPUs, and now even hard drives*
post #23 of 33
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$10 saved a YEAR?! Hardly seems worth it, unless you are an environmental fanatic.
that in fact drives a HUGE car
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post #24 of 33
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$10 saved a YEAR?! Hardly seems worth it, unless you are an environmental fanatic.
Well if you are a large company running thousands of hard drives...it could pay off as long as the hard drives lasted 3-5 years
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post #25 of 33
Spend $50 extra to save $10 per year...

Sorry guys, I don't believe the whole, "Its helping the environment garbage..."
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Spend $50 extra to save $10 per year...

Sorry guys, I don't believe the whole, "Its helping the environment garbage..."
in all reality...it's not helping any thing. It's using less power. The only way it would help the environment is if EVERY ONE used them. Right now if one area starts to use less electricity, the power plants still porduce the same ammount of power and burn just as much coal. The electricity is just sold to a nieghboring area at a slight discount or stored up in capacitors.

Also...what if you popwer comes from hydro-electric or wind power...or nuclear for that matter? Then it really isn't helping any thing but lower your electric bill.

This is how it works in my area any way...and last area I lived in as well.
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Then it really isn't helping any thing but lower your electric bill.
sure. but think of this....

a datacenter full of servers. (lets say 15 thousand rack servers. with an average of 2 hard drivers per server.)

add it up. i get 300k a year.

that means that that datacenter can lower their server prices because they are saving 300k a year just on power for the hard drives.

with

cpu/ram and now hard drives becoming cheaper. all we really need is cheaper electric. and cheaper fiber connections for datacenters. and we can have some crazy powerful and cheap dedicated servers

it might not be much for the average joe to save 10$ a hard driver per year.

but think how many hard drives people like google have?
    
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Yeah...in my earlier post I mentioned that if you are a large company these would pay off in the long run. You have to constantly buy new hard drives any way...might as well lower operation costs.
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post #29 of 33
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“spin speed and disk cache [are] no longer the key-overriding factors in the storage industry”.
Yeah... guess again!
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Pretty sure power consumption goes UP rather than staying the same, especially in the higher end market. Remember the days when you could simply put a GPU in your PCI slot, AGP slot, or even PCIe slot without having to plug in an extra cable?
Yeah, you're right - but it's a smaller jump than you make it sound. And actually, for the 7 series they did a lot of work on power consumption. Your standard 6600GT GDDR3 (1ghz) uses ~45 watts. Your standard 7600GT uses ~35 watts, and a 7600GT eats a 6600GT for breakfast. Heck, it even eats 6600GT SLI for breakfast.

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Even enthusiast CPUs run cooler and way more efficient than older enthusiast CPUs.

My point is the GPU makers are lagging behind in the power consumption / efficiency section while nearly every other product is striving to become better. *80% efficiency PSUs, DDR3, 45nm CPUs, and now even hard drives*
Well, Intel managed to drop power consumption down to a third while maintaining the same overall performance, when moving from Pentium D's to Core 2 Duos. That's impressive, but it doesn't mean GPU makers aren't doing a good job. The CPU industry jumps nanometer processes in leaps and bounds. The GPU industry does not. The technology just isn't there, to do it while still delivering high yields. Intel and AMD can lower clockspeeds and sell them cheaper, if all else fails, but nVidia and ATI can't for videocards.

GPUs are remarkably efficient for the amount of number crunching they do. Just because they drop power consumption 20% instead of 60% when moving to a new generation doesn't mean they're doing a horrible job. They're still on 80nm/90nm, so I think they're doing pretty good overall.
     
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