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Hey guys,

After having used my DMX 6FiRE 24/96 for many years with full satisfaction, the lousy driver support from Terratec has made my soundcard quite
useless after I changed to Vista Premium x64. Being based on the professional Envy24 controller and with it's AKM codecs, this card produces great quality sound, and allows quality recording.

But now I need a new soundcard which is fully functional under Vista, and allows quallity recording and playback. My eye has come across the E-Mu 1820. It uses the same converters as some protools systems. However I've read there are issues with Vista x64.

Has anyone got any experience with this card under vista x64? Are there soundcards out there which have about the same options and also offers great quallity? My budget is around $350, however I don't live in the States or Canada, but in the Netherlands so links with prices and where to buy them isn't required.

thx in advance.
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post #2 of 13
hm.. ik heb een Xtreme Music gekocht bij Zercom.nl.
mss dat jij beter voor de Elite Pro of iets dergelijks kunt gaan met dat budget.

EDIT: http://www.overclock.net/sound-cards-computer-audio/185072-incredible-x-fi-mod-will-void.htm
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Well, the Chaintech AV710 uses that chipset but it is not really a professional soundcard. I'm not too familiar with any other cards that use it or I am unaware which other cards use it.

EDIT: The M Audio Audiophile 2496 uses the Via Envy24
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E-Mu's are good. I would recommend the HT Omega Claro if you don't want to max out your budget. However, I don't know a whole lot about high end recording cards. The E-Mu 1616 looks great, if you can find it on sale fro cheaper then $400. I assume the 1816 is probably just as good, so it would be a valid choice.
    
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Well, the Chaintech AV710 uses that chipset but it is not really a professional soundcard. I'm not too familiar with any other cards that use it or I am unaware which other cards use it.

EDIT: The M Audio Audiophile 2496 uses the Via Envy24
It's not a necessity that the soundcard uses the Envy24 controller, but the replacing soundcard does need to at least match up to this soundcards quality.

And I'm not all that positive about the Audiophile series of M-Audio, cause alot of them are experiencing heatnoice.

Thank you for you're input though.

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E-Mu's are good. I would recommend the HT Omega Claro if you don't want to max out your budget. However, I don't know a whole lot about high end recording cards. The E-Mu 1616 looks great, if you can find it on sale fro cheaper then $400. I assume the 1816 is probably just as good, so it would be a valid choice.
I like the fact that the HT uses the CMI9780 codec. The downside to this card is the fact that the front-module isn't standard, wich would bring additional costs with it. I hate to have to get down on the ground and behind my PC to insert the cables.

The E-Mu 1616 is looking very impressive and seems to be of really high quality, I'll definately will be checking that one out. I couldn't find any information about the 1816 though, could it be you mean the 1818? In both ways they are discontinued products, or am I mistaking there? Couldn't find anything about them on the E-Mu website.

Thank you for your input.
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If you really want a front panel, an X-Fi Elite is always an option. I know X-Fis aren't the best, but they have the front panel and the higher end ones can have sweet sound output.
    
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If you really want a front panel, an X-Fi Elite is always an option. I know X-Fis aren't the best, but they have the front panel and the higher end ones can have sweet sound output.
I've considered this, but I've been trying to find some information. The Audigy's were labeled 24/96 but mixes 16bit/48KHz with 24bit headroom, while the Terratec mixes 24bit lanes with 36bit headroom. I couldn't find weather the X-Fi are the same, or weather they are true 24bit.

Does anyone know?
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Hmmm, my Bluegears, for under $100, is 24-bit / 192 KHz, but I'm not sure if it would mix at that either... Probably if you're trying to edit music and such you shouldn't get an X-Fi. Perhaps get an X-Fi front panel and that HT card? I'm sure someone would sell the X-Fi front panel on eBay for a decent price...
    
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X-Fi is true 24-bit. There's about a 10% chance I'm wrong.

The HT Omega Claro is a great card but the Sondigo Inferno has the exact same chipset and (I believe) the same DACs. Plus it's waaaay cheaper than the HT Omega Claro

EDIT: Also the Bluegears B-Inspirer is pretty much the same card as the Sondigo Inferno.
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Hmmm, my Bluegears, for under $100, is 24-bit / 192 KHz, but I'm not sure if it would mix at that either... Probably if you're trying to edit music and such you shouldn't get an X-Fi. Perhaps get an X-Fi front panel and that HT card? I'm sure someone would sell the X-Fi front panel on eBay for a decent price...
I'll look into that, The HT soundcard allows some additional costs for a front panel. I'm not sure though on how this will work. Would the front panel be seen as a second soundcard? While it wouldn't work with the HT drivers, or am I mistaking there?

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X-Fi is true 24-bit. There's about a 10% chance I'm wrong.

The HT Omega Claro is a great card but the Sondigo Inferno has the exact same chipset and (I believe) the same DACs. Plus it's waaaay cheaper than the HT Omega Claro

EDIT: Also the Bluegears B-Inspirer is pretty much the same card as the Sondigo Inferno.
Both the Sondigo Inferno as well as the Bluegears B-Inspirer don't have any options for expanding with a front panel. These cards are quality cards for playback, but outside an optical input and a mini-jack input it doesn't have any recording options.

Thank you for your input though
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