Overclock.net › Forums › AMD › AMD CPUs › Upgrading to X2 4400+
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Upgrading to X2 4400+ - Page 4

post #31 of 49
Perfect. I had:

-AMD Athlon64 X2 4400+
-Thermaltake Big Typhoon
-DFI LanParty UT RDX-200 CF-DR

I reached 3.0GHz with an idle temperature of 27C, with an ambient of 24C. My full load did not go past 40C, however, I do not have screenshots because I wiped my Hard Drive.

I would say go as high as you can while keeping your load under 30-35C. My cooling and processor were also 100% stock, meaning my Big Typhoon was not lapped and I had the stock fan.

Oh, and, I used Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Paste.
The Monolith: III
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Asus P5K Deluxe/WiFi-AP eVGA e-GeForce 8800GTX 2x1GB of G. Skill DDR2-800 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
300GB / 60GB / 4GB 16x LG DVD Burner Windows: XP ViewSonic 19" VP191b 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Saitek PK-02 SeaSonic M12 SS-700MH Antec P180B Mid-Tower Logitech G5 
Mouse Pad
-- 
  hide details  
Reply
The Monolith: III
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Asus P5K Deluxe/WiFi-AP eVGA e-GeForce 8800GTX 2x1GB of G. Skill DDR2-800 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
300GB / 60GB / 4GB 16x LG DVD Burner Windows: XP ViewSonic 19" VP191b 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Saitek PK-02 SeaSonic M12 SS-700MH Antec P180B Mid-Tower Logitech G5 
Mouse Pad
-- 
  hide details  
Reply
post #32 of 49
After trying some frec's / dividers and other FSB variations, all i can say ive got my X2 4400 Very stable at 2.61 Ghz, see my rig below. all i can say is that past 2.7 gets very unstable, sometimes win xp doesnt boot at all, with this overclock prime95 runs perfectly, also ive tried multitasking an i noticed a boost, with thw 400 MHz gain, im pretty satisfied with the OC, even with Battlefield 2142 runs perfect.

Buena suerte FAC, veo que eres de mexico, saludos por alla!!!


Shot at 2007-08-05
Avox`s Machine
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon X2 4400+ @ 2.61 Ghz MSI K8N DIAMOND PLUS Sli16x BF 7900 GT OC Edition Patriot Extreme 1 Gb x 2 ( 2 Gb´s) 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
150 gig WD Raptor 10kRPM / WD 320 Gig/ WD 250 Gig Win Xp / Win Vista Acer 19 LCD Widescreen Logitech Multimedia Keyboard 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Antec TRUE POWER 550 Thermaltake Armor FULL TOWER ATX Logitech Mx-518 Razer pad for FPS games 
  hide details  
Reply
Avox`s Machine
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon X2 4400+ @ 2.61 Ghz MSI K8N DIAMOND PLUS Sli16x BF 7900 GT OC Edition Patriot Extreme 1 Gb x 2 ( 2 Gb´s) 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
150 gig WD Raptor 10kRPM / WD 320 Gig/ WD 250 Gig Win Xp / Win Vista Acer 19 LCD Widescreen Logitech Multimedia Keyboard 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Antec TRUE POWER 550 Thermaltake Armor FULL TOWER ATX Logitech Mx-518 Razer pad for FPS games 
  hide details  
Reply
post #33 of 49
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninja_Boy View Post
Perfect. I had:

-AMD Athlon64 X2 4400+
-Thermaltake Big Typhoon
-DFI LanParty UT RDX-200 CF-DR

I reached 3.0GHz with an idle temperature of 27C, with an ambient of 24C. My full load did not go past 40C, however, I do not have screenshots because I wiped my Hard Drive.
Nice! Do you remember which stepping your CPU was?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninja_Boy View Post
I would say go as high as you can while keeping your load under 30-35C. My cooling and processor were also 100% stock, meaning my Big Typhoon was not lapped and I had the stock fan.

Oh, and, I used Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Paste.
30-35°C under load? I hardly get that when idle WITHOUT OC'ing.

Why do you mean the Big Typhoon was "not lapped"?
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 64 X2 4400+ (Toledo) Gigabyte GA-K8NSC-939 nF3 ATI Radeon 9250 2x512 Mb Kingston PC3200 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSPower
80 Gb TDK DVD-RW Windows XP SP2 350 watt 
  hide details  
Reply
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 64 X2 4400+ (Toledo) Gigabyte GA-K8NSC-939 nF3 ATI Radeon 9250 2x512 Mb Kingston PC3200 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSPower
80 Gb TDK DVD-RW Windows XP SP2 350 watt 
  hide details  
Reply
post #34 of 49
Quote:
Originally Posted by fac View Post
Nice! Do you remember which stepping your CPU was?



30-35°C under load? I hardly get that when idle WITHOUT OC'ing.

Why do you mean the Big Typhoon was "not lapped"?
Hi again. Lapping is a process where you take the relatively uneven and un-polished surfaces of the heat-sink and the IHS (the integrated heat spreader) on the CPU, and sand/polish them down so they have a very level surface, sequentially going to finer and finer grit sand paper, to make them completely flat (so eventually there are no "hills" or "valleys" on the surfaces, which prevents proper contact between the two surfaces--this is very common for IHS's to have--they're rarely 100% level/even). Also, since you're essentially polishing it in addition to leveling it, the tiny scratches in the surface are gone, which also impede thermal dissipation (since anytime there is a scratch on one of the surfaces, there isn't good thermal contact there, so heat isn't removed from the CPU as efficiently as it can be). Lapping has been said to give up to 5C cooler temps under load since thermal contact between the two surfaces is better.

But before you lap the CPU and HSF (lapping either surfaces voids your warranty if you have one), I would give the Big Typhoon a shot (I suggest using Arctic Silver 5 as the thermal compound--it is quite good, and make sure to follow the directions of how much to use). The contact point on the stock HSF for the 939 cpu's is INCREDIBLY uneven and unpolished--my copper contact surface had huge ridges throughout the surface like they just cut the copper chunk and didn't sand it at all. True, the mounting mechanism might break, but as long as you're very careful and don't force anything, it should be just fine. Or you could go with one of the Zalman's--like a 9500 or 9700, which are quite good, and use the stock mounting bracket (had no problems with mine).
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500K Biostar TP67B+ XFX HD5750 1GB 2x4GB DDR3 Corsair 1600 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
60GB OCZ SSD, 2x160GB HDD RAID0, 500GB+500GB+1.5TB Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit Samsung SyncMaster 930B Antec SmartPower 450w 
Case
Antec 900 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500K Biostar TP67B+ XFX HD5750 1GB 2x4GB DDR3 Corsair 1600 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
60GB OCZ SSD, 2x160GB HDD RAID0, 500GB+500GB+1.5TB Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit Samsung SyncMaster 930B Antec SmartPower 450w 
Case
Antec 900 
  hide details  
Reply
post #35 of 49
Thread Starter 
I just installed a generic system fan, which I think helped reduce temps a few celsius. Later I'll install the Big Typhoon, and that'll be it for now since right now I don't want to spend more bucks in this thing.

Thank you all for your helpful comments.
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 64 X2 4400+ (Toledo) Gigabyte GA-K8NSC-939 nF3 ATI Radeon 9250 2x512 Mb Kingston PC3200 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSPower
80 Gb TDK DVD-RW Windows XP SP2 350 watt 
  hide details  
Reply
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 64 X2 4400+ (Toledo) Gigabyte GA-K8NSC-939 nF3 ATI Radeon 9250 2x512 Mb Kingston PC3200 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSPower
80 Gb TDK DVD-RW Windows XP SP2 350 watt 
  hide details  
Reply
post #36 of 49
Quote:
Originally Posted by fac View Post
I just increased the vcore to 1.4 and had no problems raising the FSB to 220 Mhz (CPU @ 2420 Mhz). I used a 11/12 DDR divider and a 3x HT mult just to be safe. Everything went fine, but when running at full load (two instances of Stress Prime 2004), CPU temp went up to 58° C after a few minutes. I dare not push it any further.

I'll leave it at 2.42 Ghz and tomorrow will try to set the DDR at 1:1 and the HT to 4x. My mobo allows an increase of HT link voltage by 0.1-0.3 V. Would that be safe? I don't have a system fan.
Dont bump the ht link voltage.

Also you've got to understand that When you run 2 instances of stress test, that is the hottest the cpu will ever get.
It should never get that high under normal-heavy usage.

My new rig at Full load using stress test gets up to nearly 60 full load, but I can never get it that high even when running a game, media player, and have a couple firefox windows open, with utorrent in the background.
Even with all that the highest it got was like 50, which is plenty safe.

So keep that in mind.
New Rig 2/14/08
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
e6400 GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L Radeon HD3850 512mb 2x1gig G.Skill 6400 
Hard DriveMonitorPower
WD 160gig Acer 22" Ws Sunbeam 550w 
  hide details  
Reply
New Rig 2/14/08
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
e6400 GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L Radeon HD3850 512mb 2x1gig G.Skill 6400 
Hard DriveMonitorPower
WD 160gig Acer 22" Ws Sunbeam 550w 
  hide details  
Reply
post #37 of 49
Thread Starter 
Ok. I've installed the Big Typhoon and things seem to be a bit better now. Without overclocking, the CPU reaches 45° C after 10 minutes of full load (two instances of SP2004). However, under "normal" conditions, where I use about 50%-70% CPU load, temps were at 36° C. When idle, it's around 30°-32° C.

After bumping the vcore to 1.4 and overclocking to 2.42 GHz, idle temps are at around 32-35° C, and at full load it didn't go over 50° C even after 10 minutes (last night it reached 58° C in 5 min). Under normal usage, CPU temp is around 40° C.

It may be worth mentioning that today's been a nice hot day. It's 9 PM and we're at 23° C outdoors.

A big plus: the Big Typhoon is much less noisy than the stock fan, which is a great since I use this PC for music production.

Now I'll try going for 2.5 Ghz.

Peace.
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 64 X2 4400+ (Toledo) Gigabyte GA-K8NSC-939 nF3 ATI Radeon 9250 2x512 Mb Kingston PC3200 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSPower
80 Gb TDK DVD-RW Windows XP SP2 350 watt 
  hide details  
Reply
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 64 X2 4400+ (Toledo) Gigabyte GA-K8NSC-939 nF3 ATI Radeon 9250 2x512 Mb Kingston PC3200 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSPower
80 Gb TDK DVD-RW Windows XP SP2 350 watt 
  hide details  
Reply
post #38 of 49
Thread Starter 
Ok, I've just reached 2.53 Ghz. I had to bump the vcore up to 1.45, which I hoped I didn't have to do, but what the hell. Temps are as follows:

Idle: 32-33° C
Full Load: 55° C after 10 minutes of stress test
Normal Load: 42° C

RAM divider is at 11/12 (420 Mhz), HT mult is at 3x (mobo supports only 800 Mhz)
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 64 X2 4400+ (Toledo) Gigabyte GA-K8NSC-939 nF3 ATI Radeon 9250 2x512 Mb Kingston PC3200 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSPower
80 Gb TDK DVD-RW Windows XP SP2 350 watt 
  hide details  
Reply
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 64 X2 4400+ (Toledo) Gigabyte GA-K8NSC-939 nF3 ATI Radeon 9250 2x512 Mb Kingston PC3200 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSPower
80 Gb TDK DVD-RW Windows XP SP2 350 watt 
  hide details  
Reply
post #39 of 49
dude 55 C!!! omg youre gonna cook that cpu!!! O.O
Avox`s Machine
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon X2 4400+ @ 2.61 Ghz MSI K8N DIAMOND PLUS Sli16x BF 7900 GT OC Edition Patriot Extreme 1 Gb x 2 ( 2 Gb´s) 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
150 gig WD Raptor 10kRPM / WD 320 Gig/ WD 250 Gig Win Xp / Win Vista Acer 19 LCD Widescreen Logitech Multimedia Keyboard 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Antec TRUE POWER 550 Thermaltake Armor FULL TOWER ATX Logitech Mx-518 Razer pad for FPS games 
  hide details  
Reply
Avox`s Machine
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon X2 4400+ @ 2.61 Ghz MSI K8N DIAMOND PLUS Sli16x BF 7900 GT OC Edition Patriot Extreme 1 Gb x 2 ( 2 Gb´s) 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
150 gig WD Raptor 10kRPM / WD 320 Gig/ WD 250 Gig Win Xp / Win Vista Acer 19 LCD Widescreen Logitech Multimedia Keyboard 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Antec TRUE POWER 550 Thermaltake Armor FULL TOWER ATX Logitech Mx-518 Razer pad for FPS games 
  hide details  
Reply
post #40 of 49
Quote:
Originally Posted by Avonator View Post
dude 55 C!!! omg youre gonna cook that cpu!!! O.O
Why? 55C is a perfectly acceptable temp for a full-load stress test situation. Granted, the idea of "cooler is always better" still holds true, but 55 is safe for this CPU under a full-load situation. Now if it's constantly run at 55C 24/7, then I'd start to worry, but he said that normally it sits around 42C (I'm assuming that's like moderate use), which is fine for an OC using 1.45v on the ccbwe stepping. There's nothing to worry about.

fac--glad your OC is going well. Have you had any stability issues at 2.54GHz? Good luck with the OC!
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500K Biostar TP67B+ XFX HD5750 1GB 2x4GB DDR3 Corsair 1600 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
60GB OCZ SSD, 2x160GB HDD RAID0, 500GB+500GB+1.5TB Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit Samsung SyncMaster 930B Antec SmartPower 450w 
Case
Antec 900 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500K Biostar TP67B+ XFX HD5750 1GB 2x4GB DDR3 Corsair 1600 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
60GB OCZ SSD, 2x160GB HDD RAID0, 500GB+500GB+1.5TB Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit Samsung SyncMaster 930B Antec SmartPower 450w 
Case
Antec 900 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: AMD CPUs
Overclock.net › Forums › AMD › AMD CPUs › Upgrading to X2 4400+