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Does anyone have any info on what type of performance gain one would get from running 4 hdd in raid0 config over running 2 hdd?

Thanks for the input.
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What controller?

Here is one with an excellent (and expensive) Areca ARC-1220: http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/07/...caling_charts/
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4 times greater chance of the hard drive suffering some sort of error.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID_0#RAID_0

here is the Wiki article on it.

shows no difference in games and a minimal increase in certain apps. I would not risk it at all, it really isn't worth it.

Doesn't look like any real difference.
    
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So raid 0 + 1? Increased data security from my limited reading. No clue on the performance gain/loss.
    
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What controller?
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You have already named the thread "Raid 0 Diminishing Returns" before you even have any answers to your question. Explain please?
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So raid 0 + 1? Increased data security from my limited reading. No clue on the performance gain/loss.
With a hardware RAID card, there wouldn't be any REAL performance loss with RAID 10 or 0 + 1.
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Good find Duckie

So for a database it seems good. It however doesn't mention what the performance increase is, if it is a noticeable increase or if it is just when transferring huge files that you notice anything. Even then you would be limited by the other persons hard drive speed.
    
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You have already named the thread "Raid 0 Diminishing Returns" before you even have any answers to your question. Explain please?
I was referring to the "rule of" and how it affects this particular scenario but how long can I make the thread title? Lol...would have been something like: How does the rule of diminishing returns affect 4 discs in a raid0 array as compared to 2 discs?
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I was referring to the "rule of" and how it affects this particular scenario but how long can I make the thread title? Lol...would have been something like: How does the rule of diminishing returns affect 4 discs in a raid0 array as compared to 2 discs?
There is no simple rule of thumb because the controller has a huge impact of performance.
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