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UHHHHHH, no, higher speed is not always faster, like I said earlier, its like saying a pentium D even at, lets say 4 Ghz, is better than a Core2Duo at 3 Ghz and no it is not, architecture is much more important.
You are adding an additional variable by comparing two different architecture CPUs. You are no longer comparing JUST CPU speed, but rather CPU speed and architecture.

If you keep CPU speed as the only variable, I think you will find it is always faster.
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You are adding an additional variable by comparing two different architecture CPUs. You are no longer comparing JUST CPU speed, but rather CPU speed and architecture.

If you keep CPU speed as the only variable, I think you will find it is always faster.
Do you even realize what you are saying, why would you compare a processor against itself????????????????? Of course if it is the same processor, a faster clock will be faster, but we have been talking about the new wave of AMD's cpu's against those of intel's current and future processor, where I am pretty sure architecture matters most.

My first comment was against those who declared that if AMD can't get their procs past 3 ghz, they won't be any good. Which shows that people have zero short term memory because with the 478 and 939 sockets were going up and up and up, and then core2duo came out much slower mgz-wise, but performed much better. Hence why people need to remember that it might happen again. Since C2D and AM2 have come out, speeds have been going up and up, now the next wave of technology with the next new architecture might pull it off again where cpu's start off below 2.0 Ghz, just like the C2D, which started at 1.8( I think), yet are still faster
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Do you even realize what you are saying, why would you compare a processor against itself????????????????? Of course if it is the same processor, a faster clock will be faster, but we have been talking about the new wave of AMD's cpu's against those of intel's current and future processor, where I am pretty sure architecture matters most.

My first comment was against those who declared that if AMD can't get their procs past 3 ghz, they won't be any good. Which shows that people have zero short term memory because with the 478 and 939 sockets were going up and up and up, and then core2duo came out much slower mgz-wise, but performed much better. Hence why people need to remember that it might happen again. Since C2D and AM2 have come out, speeds have been going up and up, now the next wave of technology with the next new architecture might pull it off again where cpu's start off below 2.0 Ghz, just like the C2D, which started at 1.8( I think), yet are still faster
It is a silly comparison.
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Bring it on!
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It is a silly comparison.
While it might be silly, it's still the type of comparison that needs to be made.

Why would I buy AMD's new processor if, clock for clock, it's slower than Intel's? Especially, then, if it's clocked slower? And the ONLY way we can figure this out is to compare the two.
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hopefully these will push Intel prices down and not raise their prices.
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Good find!!

That is a lot of cpu's. I am concerened about the speeds too. Nothing over 3ghz! Must have some kick ass architecture to be able to rival Intel's Penryns.

Any word on new chipsets or sockets on these things? I have had AMD stuff for yrs and never seen something so hush hush.
3Ghz is for Phenom which is releasing in September i think. Amd recently showed off a 3Ghz Phenom with 3 2900 XT in crossfire.
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1k$ in my name that a 3 ghz phenom will NOT be out in sept. Anyone want to challenge me?
    
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post #29 of 31
"AMD Preps Partners for "Barcelona" Launch"

Good thing because those "partners" were probably sleeping.

- "AMD who?"

- "You know, those guys who used to make chips for you."
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Good find!!

That is a lot of cpu's. I am concerened about the speeds too. Nothing over 3ghz! Must have some kick ass architecture to be able to rival Intel's Penryns.

Any word on new chipsets or sockets on these things? I have had AMD stuff for yrs and never seen something so hush hush.
Seriously they don't... Even if these chips perform 66% of current (or rather future) Intel server grade chips, you can put twice as many of them onto any platform. AMD has the HTT over Intel currently and a server with 4 of these goliaths will be much faster than a 2 socket core 2 system.
    
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