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Another thing to consider is that, while the 1 GB 2900 may not show a huge increase in gaming right now over the 512 MB one, games may not be designed to utilize it.

Think, if you run Starcraft on a 6800 Ultra and an Athlon 64 3200+ and already get 120 FPS (theoretically) I can bet you won't get a huge increase by going to a quad core and dual 8800 Ultras.

Games may be like that right now for DX10 cards. While the 2900 may not win at DX9, keep in mind it was built for DX10. Perhaps DX10 will better utilize the 2900. Maybe they really like big memory interfaces, so the 512-bit interface will pay off. Maybe they really like the speed of GDDR4 and will really shine when using that memory. Only time will tell, there.

If you're just playing current games, the fact is that both cards are probably unnecessarily powerful. A 640MB 8800GTS would be perfectly fine for all of the games now. For Crysis, who knows? Unreal Tournament 3, who knows?

Once at least 5 DX10 games are out, we can see whaty they utilize most. Whether it's lots of memory, faster memory, or a wider memory bandwidth, as far as sheer hardware goes, the 2900 looks to be the better card.
    
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Got it back, poor thing doesnt like my rough treatment and carpet static abuse, I seem to bump and drop these things like 50cents worth of yesterdays lego... lol
so are you related to this guy? forgive me if he's Australian - i come from a land of no accents and have trouble distinguishing between them.
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Got it back, poor thing doesnt like my rough treatment and carpet static abuse, I seem to bump and drop these things like 50cents worth of yesterdays lego... lol
You can bump and drop one into my pocket/pc if you like
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so are you related to this guy? forgive me if he's Australian - i come from a land of no accents and have trouble distinguishing between them.
Mr Maxishine, I believe he is a friend Of Mhill who is a member here.

He has a very nice setup indeed.

As for the accents? I sound probably as much like an aussie as you sound Russian
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figured as much. again, Southern California here. the only accents i have to distinguish between are Spanish vs. Vietnamese. pretty easy to tell the difference there.
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I think that benchmarks are highly dependant on the mobo and CPU and how high they are clocked more so than the cards once you reach the top end.

Just because you see a certain benchmark number do not be misled into believing A) That's all the card can do B) That particular Card is better than some other.

Performance is a total system deal. Cog's E6600 just can't put out the same 3D06 as a Q6600 despite having very potent GFX. On two identical systems at this time I would say Ultra's in SLI will perform better at stock speeds but it is already semi-proven that Crossfire Scales better as the clock speeds increase dramatically (LN2 etc).

What are the chances you are going to run a pair of card on phase? Slim I reckon...in that case I would say a pair of Ultras will, for now, be the top choice.

I have a feeling that coding will eventually catch up to the hardware and then the ATI cards will start looking stronger.

As far as how the cards look on the screen I have always preferred ATI despite lower performance...they just look make a more realistic screen IMO.
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Well yes, but for the average user, they'll be using air cooling and as you can see from the top 30 PCs on OCN, they are all nVidia 8800 series.

What i'm basicly saying is, for the everyday user, the 8800s would be better. If you want to use watercooling/phase/cascade/LN2/dry ice, then the 2900 has great potential.
The everyday user doesn't come into play when you're discusing whether to spend $980 or $1160 just on video cards. (give or take a couple hundred)
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The everyday user doesn't come into play when you're discusing whether to spend $980 or $1160 just on video cards. (give or take a couple hundred)
You have a point but if you are building a power pc which is designed to last a while, whats the point in getting a crap graphics card....

If you are gonna do a job, do it properly....

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The everyday user doesn't come into play when you're discusing whether to spend $980 or $1160 just on video cards. (give or take a couple hundred)
I was refering to the everyday users in the very high-end category. Even though there are very few of them, there are even fewer out of those who will put these cards on LN2 for benching.
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LN2 is CRAZY....really expensive too.
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