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A complete overview of AMDs Analyst Day at Anandtech. All codenames, release dates, roadmaps, Fusion, Bobcat on iPhone?, new chipsets, GPU and more. Here are some of the more exciting/important stuff I think.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=3050&p=1

Also at pcper http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=436

Barcelona

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Before getting into the new stuff, AMD gave us a brief update on Barcelona, whose launch is now hopefully less than a month away.

The first Barcelona processors available will be the HE (Energy Efficient) and standard performance CPUs, running at speeds of 2.0GHz or lower at launch:

In Q4 of this year AMD will introduce the SE (High Performance) Barcelona parts, running at 2.3GHz and above.
Shanghai

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In the second half of 2008, AMD will introduce its first 45nm processor under the codename Shanghai.

Shanghai will be an evolutionary step above Barcelona, adding a larger L3 cache and some IPC enhancements at both the core and North Bridge levels. Shanghai will keep the same 512KB L2 cache per core of Barcelona, but grow the shared L3 cache from 2MB to a full 6MB. Note that this is still less cache than Penryn will offer in its quad-core configurations, but with AMD's integrated memory controller, larger caches aren't as necessary.

Shanghai, like Barcelona, is targeted at the server market. There will be a desktop variant also introduced in the second half of 2008 with similar specs. Shanghai and its desktop equivalent will be socket-compatible with Barcelona/Phenom motherboards.

AMD has also indicated that Shanghai will begin AMD's transition to DDR3 on the desktop, indicating that the desktop version may be available in two different sockets: AM2 for DDR2 support, and AM3 for DDR3 support. In the first half of 2009, Sandtiger will follow Shanghai in the server space with a brand new architecture (we'll talk about this core shortly). Sandtiger will be exclusively DDR3 and will definitely require a new platform, and just like Shanghai there will be a desktop variant of Sandtiger as well.
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Today, AMD confirmed that it, too, would be releasing a new microprocessor architecture every two years, and a new manufacturing process on the alternate years. AMD attempted to go one step further and tie platform technology to the cadence as well; confirming that every two years the platform would change, alongside the microprocessor architecture, to support new features as they are available. It's a minor distinction but the main point is that AMD is committed to Intel's 2-year processor cycle.
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Remember Fusion? The whole reason for the ATI acquisition? Well, AMD gave us a little more information on its plans for the first Fusion CPUs.

The first Fusion CPUs belong to a family of chips codenamed Falcon; note that Falcon refers to the Fusion CPU family and not the CPU or GPU cores themselves. Contrary to popular belief, the first Fusion CPUs will be built of a single die. On this die you will find the following components: a shared memory controller, Bulldozer or Bobcat based CPU cores, a DirectX GPU core with UVD support, a shared cache (shared between the CPU and GPU), and a PCIe controller - all on the same die.

he shared memory controller will most likely support DDR3 given the 2009 - 2010 launch timeframe for Fusion, and obviously it will be used by both the CPU and GPU portions of the die. We've already discussed the Bulldozer and Bobcat cores; you can expect the desktop/notebook Falcon chips to use Bulldozer cores while the smallest Ultra Mobile PCs, high performance smart phones and CE devices to use Bobcat based Falcon processors.
New GPU Line

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Most of today's announcements were CPU/platform related, however AMD did drop a few nuggets about its 2008 GPU line: the R7xx series.

The R7xx GPU will be built on a 55nm process and it appears that, at least on the high-end, there won't be any UVD support. AMD's roadmaps clearly outline UVD as a part of the mainstream R7xx feature set, but the high end platforms are completely missing the checkbox. We'll find out next year for sure if the lack of UVD and Purevideo HD on high end parts will continue.
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post #2 of 31
What a jumble of mixed metaphors...heavy earth-moving machinery--lithe agile bird of prey...

Sandtiger?

Shanghai....

It's gonna take a lot more than some "catchy" names and a roadmap to lead them to th pot of gold intel is running away with.

Glad to see they are moving further still into a unified die..that has always been their strongsuit.No doubt that is ideal for the mobile PC niche...

2008 is a long ways a way when every 2 months technology unfolds a new layer...
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Awesome find.. looks like AMD isnt going to laydown and die as many Intel fanboys wanted..

Im very interested in all that is happening with AMD.. like a ton of stuff is all coming out at once (or atleast being announced at once)

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I hear that.
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Of course they're still in the game! They may have had a rough quarter, but it's not like they don't have any sales....plenty of chips in OEM systems. Just because overclockers aren't eating it up ATM doesn't mean they are doomed.

OMG Higgins your sig is AWESOME! I HATE IT when people brag about running Linux.....trust me I work in a Linux environment. Linux FTL!
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post #6 of 31
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I was just excited to hear something new! I hope they provide good competition to Intel at least.
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Yea competition is always great. Knowing my luck, AMD will start PWNing, considering that I just spent $750 on an Intel mobo, DDR2, CPU, etc.
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I posted a mail sent out today to us AMD Solution Provider Members!

Woooooot!

They are dropping opty prices by almost 20% across the board!

now to get that post......................

Here it is!

http://www.overclock.net/amd-general...-opterons.html
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post #9 of 31
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Originally Posted by binormalkilla View Post
Of course they're still in the game! They may have had a rough quarter, but it's not like they don't have any sales....plenty of chips in OEM systems. Just because overclockers aren't eating it up ATM doesn't mean they are doomed.

OMG Higgins your sig is AWESOME! I HATE IT when people brag about running Linux.....trust me I work in a Linux environment. Linux FTL!
You don't sound any better than what Higgins' sig is mentioning.

I run Vista Ultimate, XP Pro, and Ubuntu 7.04 on my rig. All good OS's in certain aspects.
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You don't sound any better than what Higgins' sig is mentioning.

I run Vista Ultimate, XP Pro, and Ubuntu 7.04 on my rig. All good OS's in certain aspects.
.........what I'm saying is that I'm familiar with both OS's, and Linux is no Messiah....I deal with it's issues everyday.
Basically, I can enjoy the 'simplicity' of Windows when I get home.
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