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Personally, I hate the price, look and user base of the Apple company.
I also don't like Mac fanboys. Infact, i dislike any fanboy, as fanboyism is a creation of illogic and irrationalities. I am simply defending against false claims. I used both Mac and PC, and they each have their own thing they're good at; that's what it boils down to.

As for hating them for whatever reason you want: i would say that you can, but it doesn't have to be rational. What your thought process looks like will tell a lot about how smart you are. If you're hating the computers because of the price, then you aren't too smart, as you cannot identify the two as separate entities ("you" in general; hypothetical situation).
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Well when your computers cost twice as much as a dell of similar performance... tyah!
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I'd say computer vs. computer, Apple wins..
I'd never trade my MBP for some Dell notebook.
Thats you. Most people are not like you. You know what I mean, so I wont explain. I seriously hope that was a joke. I mean, I cannot fathom someone as enlightened as you even trying to justify such a position. see my link below....
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Apple shipped 1.76 million Macs this quarter. Link
I'm not sure how many Dell sold though, but I'd like to know.
um...yeah...Apple may be better in your opinion, but yeah Dell sells a hell of a lot more. OVER 5 TIMES MORE
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Here is iSupply's breakdown of global PC shipments during the first quarter:


HP: 10.7 million units shipped, 26.5 percent annual growth, 17.2 percent market share;

Dell: 8.9 million units shipped, 6.8 percent decline, 14.4 percent market share;

Acer: 4.2 million units shipped, 45.8 percent growth, 6.8 percent market share;

Lenovo: 3.9 million units shipped, 16.3 percent growth, 6.4 percent market share;

Toshiba: 2.56 million units shipped, 13.8 percent growth, 4.1 percent market share;

Others: 31.9 million units shipped, 3.9 percent growth, 51.2 percent market share.
http://www.crn.com/hardware/199901186

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iPod was a major part of it though. Selling 9.82 million iPods this quarter.
yeah thats the only reason why they are ahead in market share
    
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No one called anyone an idiot... And the reason Audi shouldn't have to do the work is because Moots was the one who said he could build the better system. "Burden of Proof" lies in Moots' hands. By saying Audi should prove it, you are committing Fallacy #19 in the Fallacies of Logic.
How can you say that when Audi is arguing over 200mHz? Just because there isn't one that is EXACTLY the same Audi thinks that Moots has failed. Audi doesn't care about price/performance then what is the point? Mac users have enough money to burn on everything then go ahead. A hackintosh is completely irrelevant in this discussion because this is a comparison of Apple Computers VS Dell Computers.
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i went to build a dell and i was able to build a dell with all the specs matched except the 200mhz. The price of the dell was 1900 with a 3year accidental damage coverage as well. So the apples are more expensive but it doesnt mean they are over priced. I havent used them much but to me it seems like they are manufactured a lot better. They seem more sturdy. Also apple may use better parts (or worse i dont know).

And also audi never said macs were god and they were better then pc's. He even stated he wouldnt use them if it wasnt for video edititing. What i got from him was that pc's arent as good at video editing stuff as macs and that there are other things that justify they price besides the hardware. correct me if im wrong audi.

I agree that alot of people hate macs just cuase they are expensive. Both have their posatives and negatives, one of apples is its price. But then for dells i can say they arent made to well and their service sucks. so its just trade offs from one to the other. I think they are worth everypenny and you know what you are getting so if you dont want to pay the price dont.
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Thats you. Most people are not like you. You know what I mean, so I wont explain. I seriously hope that was a joke. I mean, I cannot fathom someone as enlightened as you even trying to justify such a position. see my link below....
um...yeah...Apple may be better in your opinion, but yeah Dell sells a hell of a lot more. OVER 5 TIMES MORE

http://www.crn.com/hardware/199901186


yeah thats the only reason why they are ahead in market share
It was simply my opinion. Dell notebook and an Apple notebook, I'd get the Apple. If it were Apple vs. a Thinkpad, I'd get the Thinkpad. The only reason I have the MBP is b/c it works well with my University and I got a good discount with it and 3 years support on service, b/c of the University. If it weren't for all that, I'd have a Thinkpad with Slackware on it.

In the second quote, I simply said how many Macs Apple sold over the last three months with a link. I never said they sold more than Dell, but simply I didn't know how many pc Dell sold but I'd like to know. Thanks for the link showing the info I was interested in.
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i went to build a dell and i was able to build a dell with all the specs matched except the 200mhz. The price of the dell was 1900 with a 3year accidental damage coverage as well. So the apples are more expensive but it doesnt mean they are over priced. I havent used them much but to me it seems like they are manufactured a lot better. They seem more sturdy. Also apple may use better parts (or worse i dont know).

And also audi never said macs were god and they were better then pc's. He even stated he wouldnt use them if it wasnt for video edititing. What i got from him was that pc's arent as good at video editing stuff as macs and that there are other things that justify they price besides the hardware. correct me if im wrong audi.

I agree that alot of people hate macs just cuase they are expensive. Both have their posatives and negatives, one of apples is its price. But then for dells i can say they arent made to well and their service sucks. so its just trade offs from one to the other. I think they are worth everypenny and you know what you are getting so if you dont want to pay the price dont.
Thank you for reading our posts for what they actually say and not throwing incomprehensible gibberish in the middle.
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i went to build a dell and i was able to build a dell with all the specs matched except the 200mhz. The price of the dell was 1900 with a 3year accidental damage coverage as well. So the apples are more expensive but it doesnt mean they are over priced. I havent used them much but to me it seems like they are manufactured a lot better. They seem more sturdy. Also apple may use better parts (or worse i dont know).

And also audi never said macs were god and they were better then pc's. He even stated he wouldnt use them if it wasnt for video edititing. What i got from him was that pc's arent as good at video editing stuff as macs and that there are other things that justify they price besides the hardware. correct me if im wrong audi.

I agree that alot of people hate macs just cuase they are expensive. Both have their posatives and negatives, one of apples is its price. But then for dells i can say they arent made to well and their service sucks. so its just trade offs from one to the other. I think they are worth everypenny and you know what you are getting so if you dont want to pay the price dont.
Omg finally. SOMEONE here actually understands the damned cause. You have no idea how happy it makes me to have someone on the boards understand exactly what I said without letting their personal feelings get in the way.

Thank you SO much for that, man.
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How can you say that when Audi is arguing over 200mHz? Just because there isn't one that is EXACTLY the same Audi thinks that Moots has failed. Audi doesn't care about price/performance then what is the point? Mac users have enough money to burn on everything then go ahead. A hackintosh is completely irrelevant in this discussion because this is a comparison of Apple Computers VS Dell Computers.
Once again, another person that doesn't know what they're talking about.

When you bring in my personal life, as far as price/performance, a Hackintosh does come into play: I refused to pay 3K + for performance that was less than what I'd get out of a Desktop machine versus a Workstation from Dell, Apple, NIck's Grandfather's house... so I built one instead for 3k and got much more mileage out of it.

Again, you have no idea what you're talking about and should seek out information before posting.
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Yeah i read the whole thread thru and alot of stuff was getting mis interpreted by alot of people. So i just wanted to clear some things up lol. It would seem to me in normal computing that the dell would be a better value/performance if you dont mind crappy support and not the sturdiest build. HOwever when other things come into play such as quality and editing it makes one better. ITs all depending on cicumstance and preference. IF you just gonna surf the web then i could reccomend a mac to anyone cuase you dont need to pay that much to search the web. But for photo and video editing i would reccomend one and say the price is wortht he gains in that category.
I actually want a mbp just to have i think they are cool lol. Just not paying that much for a toy lol.
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