Originally Posted by PeaceMaker
I have been reading a lot of your posts regarding the 8600. But I really haven't seen enough evidence (online articles/reviews) to back up what your saying. FEAR is one of the games that I want to be able to appreciate on all MAX.
I get 50fps avg on the FEAR benchmark with this card OC'ed. It is little faster than my x1950pro, and a LOT faster than the 7900GT I had.
Reviews are generally useless IMO. For instance Tom's hardware charts shows the 8600GT getting 9fps in oblivion outdoors when I average 25fps with more intensive settings than they used. Many of the reviews show no framerate difference between the 8800GTS 320mb & 640mb cards, yet I've owned both and did
notice a difference in Oblivion with texture mods.
I've actually owned many of the cards I talk about, and not many can say that here. I do bring that point up a lot, but after the discrepancies I've seen between my personal results vs. what I've seen on the internet, I never can trust the opinions of other computer enthusiasts and review sites 100% anymore. Some sites I trust more than others but I've been burned more than once by making purchases relying on benchmarks and opinions. Same goes for forum members.
Hours & hours of first hand experience with each card speaks much more loudly to me than many of the wildly inaccurate benches and uninformed bandwagon-bashfests... there is
useful information to be had but it requires extensive sifting.
I really don't feel there is a need to "Back up what I'm saying", either a person takes advice or leaves it. This is similar to the RAID 0 debate... benchmarks can show a single load time, but they can't represent the overall apparent responsiveness of a system, or explain the numerous users that have had positive results. Similarly most articles show avg fps, but rarely include min fps, which is a MUCH more important number IMO. Additionally, there is no measurement for stutter, which I've seen certain cards and drivers have more problem with than others.
I don't mind devoting time and my personal experiences to helping people make educated, open minded, and financially prudent decisions- I'm not coming here to the forum to make up fairy tales, waste my free time, or try to convince people to buy a card just so they can have the same card as me.
Originally Posted by Murlocke
I have a insider source so please don't ask me about my source. If you don't want to believe me than don't, just trying to help people that are "waiting for the 9 series".
I'm just waiting for the next refresh, I don't really care what it is called.