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I'm going Kentsfield in the next month or two and then seeing what amd's and Intel's next generation offer and deciding on my next step for next summer.
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Your statement holds some water in XP. However, in Vista, apps don't need to be multithreaded. Vista's excellent processor scheduling distributes a single-threaded app among all available cores:



The "singlethread" argument is old, and does not necessarily apply anymore.
http://forums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?t=574688

Unreal Engine 3.0, most popular and widely licensed (and graphically most advanced) game engine in use today.

Epic's guys have repeatedly been saying (and other gamemakers echo this) that higher clocks mean better performance than more cores when you go from dual to quad.

And this is a DirectX 10 game, so of course he's talking about under Vista.

That screenshot doesn't really show anything. One core is running more of the process than the rest, and even that isn't used fully. Try putting it under some heavy programs to better see the distribution. It will be like the dual core, one core will run up to 60-70% and the next core will be 20-30% adding up to around 100% of one core total.

This isn't saying a quadcore won't outperform a dualcore. If the software designers properly implemented multithreaded optimization, then it would. But they don't (because they're quite frankly, stupid).
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The problem with PC gaming is that we arent running a strict gaming machine because windows is always running background processes. Its not like a console where the cpu is only calculating for the game but also having to deal with background processes. If my thinking is wrong correct me because this seems to be the main advantage of multiple cores with pc gaming. Also Im sure most of us dont use there computers stricly for gaming either. I like to dabble in video editing among other activities on my pc.
    
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Unfortunately the rig in my sig is my wifes which I built for her so we can play Lan and performs well. My rig is also in my sig under "It works " link but its still AGP and isnt cutting it anymore.
Upgrade to PCI 2.0 (with the X38 chipset) and Penryn in Q4'07.
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Upgrade to PCI 2.0 (with the X38 chipset) and Penryn in Q4'07.
Im trying to hold out as much as I can for some newer tech but its getting hard. Im still waiting for some money Im getting soon and then I will be looking for a cpu mobo.
    
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With a AM2+ MB you have the option to upgrade but don't have to if your happy with X2
With a regular AM2 mobo you can still upgrade to quadcore k10 when it comes out, you will just be using the slower HT transport - so performance difference is unknown right now.

Also there are no AM2+ motherboards out yet. Just so you guys know.

As for me, I'm waiting for AMDs agena or budapest CPUs. I'll be keeping my AM2 mobo though.
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Intel Quadcore all the way.... Knowing AMD, they will come up with something as bad as the 4x4 thing they tried.
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The PCI express 2.0 chipsets are due out Q4 and they are Intel X38,AMD RD700 and Nvidia MCP72.
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I've owned single core systems before.

The benefit of dual core has been for multitasking, but I don't know anyone who needs more than two cores for multitasking atm.

Sounds like a waste of money and time to me. They should make processors more powerful, so there's a huge improvement in resource-intensive applications rather than just being able to run even more apps slowly at the same time.

What would be better in a game, going from a 2GHz dual core to a 3GHz dualcore or to a 2GHz quadcore? It'll be the 3GHz dualcore, even though the 2GHz quadcore theoretically should be better.

I mean, obviously quadcores have the potential to give huge gains like that over a dual core. But software engineers are complete idiots, they'll figure out how to properly implement multithreading sometime in 2050.
That is only because not many apps are multi threaded at this point and time. Once multi threading becomes more mainstream the true power of multiple cores will show.
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