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i have a pentium 4 extreme edition in a apevia x gear case with a zalman 9500 and a 120 mm fan right behind the zalman my idle temps are mid to low 30s and and my load temps are 55c max
    
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Well I'm pretty sure I have it mounted on correctly.... I don't see any way that it CAN'T be on correctly.

As far as the thermal paste... I put a dot of as5 in the middle of my cpu... isn't that what you're supposed to do? I'm still thinking my 'correct' temp is my 'Core' since its at like 27 idle in Speedfan, but what would "temp1 in speedfan" and "cpu" in probe be?

Anyways, I'll post my load temps when I get back to my moms house.
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when i installed mine I put a dab in the middle of the cpu about the size of a grain of rice, and i also used a plastic baggy and rubbed some into the heat sink before settting it on so that way you have a very then layer completely covering everythging
    
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Yeah, I guess I'll try reseating, and applying a thin layer of as5 to the whole base of the zalman.

But I still feel like nobody has touched on the subject of improper temp gauges.

Speedfan says that "core" is around 28C which sounds like what my cpu should be at. Could it be Probe II is confusing "CPU" for something else...because "temp1" in speedfan is whatever CPU in ProbeII. Is there an explanation of what temp1 is?

Also, speedfan puts the temp1 in my system tray when minimized..


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Yeah, I guess I'll try reseating, and applying a thin layer of as5 to the whole base of the zalman.

But I still feel like nobody has touched on the subject of improper temp gauges.

Speedfan says that "core" is around 28C which sounds like what my cpu should be at. Could it be Probe II is confusing "CPU" for something else...because "temp1" in speedfan is whatever CPU in ProbeII. Is there an explanation of what temp1 is?

Also, speedfan puts the temp1 in my system tray when minimized..


Well, you can always test which temperature is being reported.

The temperature that shows the most rapid and most dramatic increase when going from "idle" to full load is the "Core" temperature. This is the sensor embedded inside the CPU itself (actually, there are two core temperatures, one for each core in a dual-core CPU). SpeedFan only reports one Core temperature for AMDs, as far as I know. I long stopped using SpeedFan to monitor core temps for this reason.

I hasten to recommend using CoreTemp, as its quite buggy and can randomly hard crash your system. You can get it here. Don't be alarmed, though, if your system crashes whilst using this program; it's a known bug that's being ironed out, apparently. The beta testing for the next version is going well, per reports.

Also, the Duke also highlighted that Brisbanes are notorious for not reporting their temperatures accurately, in which case I'd just learn to ignore the reports for now and just go with CPU behavior for overheating indications.

Not satisfying, I guess, but that's all we have.
    
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Lol ,how did they fit that on there?
I just took it apart and sort of hacked it out.

Followed a guide from a fellow at SilentPC who simply replaced the stock 92mm fan with a quieter 92mm fan.

My mod needed some bending done to the mounting arm, but it lined up real nice in the end.

This is a crappy infographic I made for someone else who wanted to do the mod; sort of explains the hack:

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Check my sig for a work log of that mod.

    
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post #27 of 47
@ the OP:

When I was using the 9500, I dropped 5 - 6 degrees after doing a good lap job on the cooler. I also lapped the CPU, which contributed as well.

That's another thing you might think about doing if you have the time and inclination.

One thing I'll say, having used the Zalman stock, having used it modified and having used other much better coolers ... the stock Zalman 9500 just is not a super cooler. It's better than your stock HS for sure ... but can't compare with the big tower coolers.

It can be improved dramatically, though if you care to take the time.

    
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Also, the Duke also highlighted that Brisbanes are notorious for not reporting their temperatures accurately, in which case I'd just learn to ignore the reports for now and just go with CPU behavior for overheating indications.
How far am I allowed to OC before it gets too hot...

In other words: How will I know when to stop... when my computer crashes?

and to s1rrah: I've noticed this isn't the best cooler... and I really want a nice OC on this baby to go well with my 8800gts. I'm thinking about returning now for a better cooler... what would you recommend. Also, it can't be much bigger than the zalman... cuz my zalman had like .5 inch left before it hit the case fan. I have a nice budget..so I'd like to get highest quality air
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How far am I allowed to OC before it gets too hot...

In other words: How will I know when to stop... when my computer crashes?
Bad lag on high load, lockups...

Crashes, in my experience, are more from other hardware problems (RAM, VRAM, etc.).

If it's a case of extreme overheating, the system may just shut down completely as a protection strategy.
    
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post #30 of 47
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hmm... well somebody just told me that what I'm gettin is normal.

that with an oc and good case cooling.. i SHOULD be idleing around 40 and loading around 60

is this true?
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