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post #31 of 47
I am talking straight out of the box, non OC comparison. As the average consumer would purchase and use.

Yes the e4300 will oc higher then the 5600+ however thats not the point. The review is comparing the 2 price for price as is right out of the box.

this review is also not THAT out of date. it was conducted as of april 19 2007
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Im personally not a big overclocker. For one it diminshes the life of you equipment, it doesnt always guarantee better performance, and finally it usually requires extra expenses for more cooling. I guess this is great if you benchmark for a living and maybe make a living off of it or just have tons of money to throw down the drain.
    
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This is turning into a fanboy war...sigh.
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If the "hack job" Intel quads are so bad why do they perform at nearly twice the speed of an equivalent dual core in quad core aware apps like cinema 4d. If the "hack job" 2+2 core was worst than a "real" quad core then why would the performance nearly double with those apps, it should be la lot less than double if there was a problem with that architecture no?

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Im personally not a big overclocker. For one it diminshes the life of you equipment, it doesnt always guarantee better performance, and finally it usually requires extra expenses for more cooling. I guess this is great if you benchmark for a living and maybe make a living off of it or just have tons of money to throw down the drain.
And you come and post on "overclock.net". If you don't overclock then your opinion is irrelevant.
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If the "hack job" Intel quads are so bad why do they perform at twice the speed of an equivalent dual core in quad core aware apps like cinema 4d. If the "hack job" 2+2 core was worst than a "real" quad core then why would the performance double with those apps, it should be less than double if there was a problem with that architecture no?



And you come and post on "overclock.net". If you don't overclock then your opinion is irrelevant.
I have overclocked many computers so I would think that gives me some knowledge over it. Maybe I have learned something about overclocking that many people fail to point out. So my points above are valid. If you have a problem with it then challenge them.
    
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I don't know how you do your overclocking but I never lost a piece of hardware doing it and my Duron 700 oced to 1Ghz is still running well, just had to change the CPU fan once because of a burned up motor.

My systems run 24/24 too. As for the performance it's a lot more faster, I don't know how you can't say it doesn't garantee a performance boost. of course if you let it sit at idle a 400Mhz or a 5ghz nitrogen cooled Quad core performance won't seem so different...
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I don't know how you do your overclocking but I never lost a piece of hardware doing it and my Duron 700 oced to 1Ghz is still running well, just had to change the CPU fan once because of a burned up motor.

My systems run 24/24 too. As for the performance it's a lot more faster, I don't know how you can't say it doesn't garantee a performance boost. of course if you let it sit at idle a 400Mhz or a 5ghz nitrogen cooled Quad core performance won't seem so different...
Yes i have overclocked my 800mhz athlon to 1 ghz as well and have had it for 7 years and still runs to this day. I also dont have the confidence of newer equipment compared to those old AMDs.

For the average overclocker I havent seen much of a performance increase of just 400mhz at all from some of the newer cpus. I dont think its worth the cost of the life of the cpu to push it harder unless you have invested in better cooling to push them even more. At this point most people will fear overclocking risking burning up there investment or dont really want to invest in more expensive cooling.
    
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Overclocking for me is to get best performance out of cheapest parts Because we all know that computer parts no matter how resent or powerful, will be obsolete in a short time.
AMD & Intel have charged silly prices for their top cpu's.With overclocking you can nearly beat them at their own game.
I started overclocking on a P1 166@240 and have never lost a single item because of it.
As long as you don't over volt to much and keep the stuff reasonably cool, you can be sure that your computer will out last it usefulness.
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Overclocking for me is to get best performance out of cheapest parts Because we all know that computer parts no matter how resent or powerful, will be obsolete in a short time.
AMD & Intel have charged silly prices for their top cpu's.With overclocking you can nearly beat them at their own game.
I started overclocking on a P1 166@240 and have never lost a single item because of it.
As long as you don't over volt to much and keep the stuff reasonably cool, you can be sure that your computer will out last it usefulness.
I have no problem with overclocking but dont compare old hardware with new hardware because we are pushing extremes on everything thats out now. I will bet that RMAed items are up alot more now than they have been since you ran your P1. BTW I owned a 200 mhz pentium so Im familiar with those as well. Shoot I had 386s and 486s as well. Do you remember when you could just run a heatsink on your cpu without a fan in a closed case. Try doing that now. Im thinking power consumption and heat in new hardware is at an all time record now. We all know those things are most detrimental on hardware.
    
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Nothing is pushing extreme here, extreme = heat .All the parts in my system are cool to touch and I am pushing the max out of them.
BTW I wouldn't go near a 386 back then.Back in those days, Amiga's and Atari's were the kings
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