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Originally Posted by archangelabove View Post
As for VideoCards, 8800 series is an amazing card and will be relevant for 5 years at the least. No fear buying one of those.
Ummmm wait....


NO

No video card is super good for 5 years.

Will it work fine (but at super bad setings and whatnot) in 5 years YES

But my card was pretty high-end and its 4 years old.

Thats like saying a 9800xt is still high-end
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Video cards dont... cut mustard..

Besides that, I can tell you that right now is an EXCELLENT time to put a computer together, and Waiting until December is not a bad idea. Since I built my rig (for around 1500 dollars) prices have only dropped. Prices are at incredible lows, if you know where to look (Newegg is NOT always the best option.. well it's the best option if you want your stuff shipped quickly).

As for "future-proof" .. good luck. New things are coming out daily. What you need to consider with your build, is "ADAPTABILITY" and why I mean by this, is instead of making a FUTUREPROOF build, its basically FUTURE RESISTANT.

You want lots of headroom to upgrade. This means mobo's capable of 8gigs ram, 775 slot is where Intel chips are going to stay for a long time, so it has to have one of those (I'm assuming youre going intel, seeing as how you are posting in the intel forum >.<). You want plenty of SATA ports, since IDE is officially redundant (feel free to argue, but it's true. IDE is bulky, cruddy, and does not have the speed capability of SATA and SATA II. One day HD's will go at 3.0Gb/s).

You will want multiple PCI-E slots, possible PCI-X.

As for VideoCards, 8800 series is an amazing card and will be relevant for 5 years at the least. No fear buying one of those.

Everything else you get for your computer will be very adaptable. RAM, Drives, Hard Disks, Mouse, Keyboard, Monitor, they will all last you a good 4 to 5 years provided you dont break them.

So I say now is as good a time as any to buy the parts for a computer, but if you wait a few months, prices will drop on the high end stuff right now. The 750GB hard drives will drop from 250 to like 150 dollars, and various other prices will drop 25 - 35 dollars.

It's all about, do you want it now, more expensive, but you get 4 months of enjoyment out of it and more? or wait, and save a few dollars.

I say GO NOW. Gotta walk before you crawl.
Everything you said is the truth and i give you credit for.

But then you lost credit for saying that statement.

1) No card will be relevant for 5 years! none, period.

2) I don't know if you are in 'owners denial' or maybe you haven't seen the benchies but the current generation of DX10 cards suck, simple fact. They do not do the job you pay for!

So in that respect how can you expect them to play games even on medium in 5 years? The 8800/2900 have been an apparent failure and more will come to realise this when new games come out. This isn't a fan boy statement, i could have purchased a DX10 card many times over and nearly have done. But they simply are not worth it.

So wait until november and see what the 8900/9800 series (they haven't said what it will be called yet) performs like.
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post #13 of 34
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that is a very bold statement. i don't agree with it one little bit.

my philosophy on upgrading is to never spend tons of money unless you're rolling in it and don't know what else to do with it. spending a fortune on a top of the line machine that will only be outperformed in a few months seems wasteful. better to buy parts that are *near* the top of the line and cost a lot less. it also seems to keep people happier in the long run when they never had any intention of out-benchmarking everyone in the first place.

Poor, you seem to have a really good outlook on things and i wouldn't expect you to be the dual 8800 Ultra type anyway. i'm sure you'll build a great machine.
I wasn't aware that an 8800 would be a fortune. I'm not talking about an 8800 ultra, i think its pointless to get when you can overclock them easy. I think the 8800gts is the best way to go. I would say 640mb, but you could do 320 just as well. You would notice it in some of the more high end games at the moment though.

I 100% believe that 8800's will still function incredibly well into the future and you will easily get your 350 dollars worth in 2 years. Incredibly reliable card from my experience and very easy to install etc. I love my 8800gts 640 mb, but it is expensive. If youre wanting to get into the high end of gaming, you're not going to be able to play max settings, but you can certainly have an excellent experience with the 8600 or something.

Your call. I would put the extra few into the 8800gts 320 if nothing else.
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Ummmm wait....


NO

No video card is super good for 5 years.

Will it work fine (but at super bad setings and whatnot) in 5 years YES

But my card was pretty high-end and its 4 years old.

Thats like saying a 9800xt is still high-end
Super-Good and relevant are not the same.. and I have been using a 5500 for 3 years, playing WoW and god save me BF2142. Now I got my 8800.

I think I could get away with the 5500 for another year easily, just playing 3d tetris or something :-D.

My point was not that you can use the card for 5 years, my point was simply that you will have gotten your moneysworth well before your card is inoperable.
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Everything you said is the truth and i give you credit for.

But then you lost credit for saying that statement.

1) No card will be relevant for 5 years! none, period.

2) I don't know if you are in 'owners denial' or maybe you haven't seen the benchies but the current generation of DX10 cards suck, simple fact. They do not do the job you pay for!

So in that respect how can you expect them to play games even on medium in 5 years? The 8800/2900 have been an apparent failure and more will come to realise this when new games come out. This isn't a fan boy statement, i could have purchased a DX10 card many times over and nearly have done. But they simply are not worth it.

So wait until november and see what the 8900/9800 series (they haven't said what it will be called yet) performs like.
I'm not sure the OP is that worried about benchies.

And as for DX10 cards.. DX10 along with Vista is a complete fluke and was rushed out. Pointless waste, but I didn't take into consideration the DX10 support when I got this card. Doesn't matter to me. Maybe when Vista can run without eating your system, or maybe when 8GB Ram becomes viable.


I wouldnt bite my tongue for the 8900 being something incredible. But from my own experience I think the 8800 is an excellent card, and again, I hate to defend my "5 years" statement, but the point of the statement wasn't

"You can use this for 5 years before getting a new one!"

the point was:

"You wont have to replace this in 2 years because it has the capacity to outlive its use." As in: You will get your moneysworth from it now, and then 2 years from now you can get the next big thing.

Either way, you buy the 8800 and then 2 years from now you get the 10800 (w/e lol). OR you wait a few months and get the 8900, and then in 2 years from that day you get the 10900. Doesn't really matter when you get it. It's not like they will ever stop making better video cards than the previous ones.
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It's always good to get something now.......problem is down the line you'll regret you didn't wait and that's an endless circle when it comes to PC hardware.

BTW, this is "the" common in the world of electronics, not just PCs.
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Dont think there is a special good time to get a PC.

All i suggest is that you dont buy the best of the best, that gets very expensive. Cheaper alternatives can do the same job, you're paying for the novelty that its one of the newest toys.

@archangel or something like that:
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So I say now is as good a time as any to buy the parts for a computer, but if you wait a few months, prices will drop on the high end stuff right now. The 750GB hard drives will drop from 250 to like 150 dollars, and various other prices will drop 25 - 35 dollars.

It's all about, do you want it now, more expensive, but you get 4 months of enjoyment out of it and more? or wait, and save a few dollars.
The thing is in a few months time he'll want the latest which will be expensive. Like, if he wanted to buy a computer 4 months ago and get Dual Core, and he had waited till today, sure they cheap. But 4 months on (which would be now), he will start wanting a Quad Core. Just gotta make a decision.

Oh and Christmas, prices dont go down, they go up! In Australia we have like a week of sales after christmas getting rid of all the christmas stock. dont know if in your country/city they have something like that. I would just buy it now and do your research. As someon else said, Newegg isnt always the cheapest. Check Froogle, Frys, Newegg and some price comparison sites.

For example, Getting a E2140 (dual core) and overclocking it to 3.0Ghz (with good cooling) is easily done and its about half the price of the E4400.

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It's always good to get something now.......problem is down the line you'll regret you didn't wait and that's an endless circle when it comes to PC hardware.

BTW, this is "the" common in the world of electronics, not just PCs.
^^^Nas has a point, but with pc hardware it happens more often since it get's outdated within a year or so.
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And this is the world in which I put our poor souls. No model warhammer figures or obsession with trading cards. Nope. We choose an endless cycle of expensive electronics..
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