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http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...7;20Technology

WOuld this be the best RAM for a Q6600 on this mobo?

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...nufacture=eVGA

It says it supports up to PC2-8888 RAM, but that stuff is $700! I am, however willing to forgo the expense if it's going to be worth it.

Or would the OCZ Titanium Alpha XTC PC2-8000 be more cost effective?
http://www.ocztechnology.com/product...2_dual_channel (official link to OCZ site)
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...9330&promoid=0 (NCIX site)
Now that is $200 and I think is well within my cost limit.

XTC:5-5-5-12 / 800MHz / Gold Gamer eXtreme / XTC Edition Rev. 2/ Dual Channel
Titanium Alpha: 4-4-4-15 1000 MHz / Voltage eXtreme 2 / Dual Channel

Now I don't know NEARLY as much about RAM as I do other computer components so I need a little help here. The timings for the 800MHz are a little bit tighter on the active to precharge delay numbers, but the CAS latency, RAS to CAS delay and RAS precharge are faster on the 800MHz XTC vs the Titanium Alpha. Will the extra 200MHz offset this?
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OCZ gold is not great. It's ram I would put in my father computer.

This is mucho better for the price:
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...Y&promoid=1042
or this
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...y&promoid=1042
or this
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...t&promoid=1042
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Sorry. I just updated my post lol
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Well I can't talk bad against the OCZ Titanium Alpha VX2 can I? =) I love this ram. But If I would buy today I would probably pick one of the first 2 I linked.

BTW 5 is worst than 4 when you talk about latency the lower the better. But in the end it won't affect your score THAT much like it did in the past. What you want is good ram that is able to run 1T Cmd Rate at your memory speed like I run mine.

Running mine at DDR2-850 4-4-4-8 1T 1.9v atm

In the end, in my experience, you are better running the memory in Sync with the FSB on the 680i platform so PC8000+ ram is not really needed.
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Well I took a look at 1 GHz RAM and like I said, I don't know much about ram other than lower numebrs and faster speed with larger memory = good. I was thinking about spending a little bit more to get that extra little bit of performance. I see with your OC (close to my next setup) you reached 4-4-4-8. Is that a normal result for the Titanium? If so I'm sold on it.

Also I mixed those 2 around up there. My posts as of late have been full of simple mistakes like that. Work is getting to me. VACATION IN A WEEK!
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Does the FSB not increase as you overclock? Thats why this P5LD2 Deluxe is telling me. As I OC my CPU, my FSB is getting faster apparently. Can I somehow OC the ram enough to get 1066MHz? Then I could run it with the FSB. The FSB for my 680i mobo is 1066/1333
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If RAM and FSB is linked then FSB rise causes the RAM frequency to rise.
To get 1066Mhz on a 1:1 ratio, you'd need a FSB on your processor of 533Mhz!

Its unlikely you will get stable at that speed, but dont worry, you can either run at a different ratio or just leave it lower - it wont make a huge difference.
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Well to be frank I am almost certain the Reaper (second link) is also capable of 4-4-4-8 1T at 850 but I don't know much more than that.

What I like about my ram is the ability to run 1150Mhz if i wanted to (I tried it). I won't go much further tho. But I prefer to run it at a cool 1.9v

A lot of the good PC6400 ram with 4-4-4 timmings are rated for 2.0 to 2.2v at 800Mhz.
Ballistix 2.2v at 800 (they probably can do it at less tho)
Reaper 2.1v at 800

Even the Gold one you linked is 2.0v at 800.

That is one of the reason I love my Titanium they are rated high but I know they are able to be run at much lower Voltage. im afraid of losing ram at 2.1+ since a lot of people ram just die after a few months often these days.

Are they worth it to everyone I don't think so but it's damn good ram. A lot of them are actually D9GKX IC's instead of the more common D9GHM.
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Well then it's set. I'll get the titanium.
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Originally Posted by TheGimpMan View Post
If RAM and FSB is linked then FSB rise causes the RAM frequency to rise.
To get 1066Mhz on a 1:1 ratio, you'd need a FSB on your processor of 533Mhz!
On the 680i, 1:1 is preferable and faster than a different ratio. That is why I run my ram at 850 instead of 1000+

I benched my ram at 1150Mhzwith the same CPU and FSB speed that is in my sig (1700FSB) and 850 4-4-4 1T was faster than 1150 5-5-5 2T.

it's different on Intel chipsets like the P35 1:1 don't boost the score, higher Mhz is preferable but I dont like higher Mhz on the ram because I would need higher vDimm so i am happy with the 680i
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