Overclock.net › Forums › Software, Programming and Coding › Operating Systems › Windows › BSOD errors - Hardware or OS?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

BSOD errors - Hardware or OS? - Page 3

post #21 of 39
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pcrowle View Post
Ok as of right now I have reseated the CPU and RAM and cleared my CMOS. I left everything in my bios at default except I enabled RAID 0 for my two 250 gb hard drives. I have just finished doing a clean install of VISTA 32bit and so far seems good. I am downloading drivers as we speak.

I did encounter one odd thing. After vista booted for the first time I got an error saying Windows Modular Installer had an error and had stopped. What the hell does this mean and what could cause it?
Just got my first BSOD
Said that system had to shut down because of MEMORY_MANAGEMENT

Loaded the dump file:

Unable to load image \\SystemRoot\\system32\
tkrnlpa.exe, Win32 error 0n2
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for ntkrnlpa.exe
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for ntkrnlpa.exe
Windows Vista Kernel Version 6000 MP (4 procs) Free x86 compatible
Product: WinNt, suite: TerminalServer SingleUserTS Personal
Kernel base = 0x81800000 PsLoadedModuleList = 0x81911db0
Debug session time: Tue Jul 31 23:05:09.920 2007 (GMT-4)
System Uptime: 0 days 0:30:04.765
************************************************** *******************
* Symbols can not be loaded because symbol path is not initialized. *
* *
* The Symbol Path can be set by: *
* using the _NT_SYMBOL_PATH environment variable. *
* using the -y <symbol_path> argument when starting the debugger. *
* using .sympath and .sympath+ *
************************************************** *******************
Unable to load image \\SystemRoot\\system32\
tkrnlpa.exe, Win32 error 0n2
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for ntkrnlpa.exe
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for ntkrnlpa.exe
Loading Kernel Symbols
.................................................. .................................................. .......................................
Loading User Symbols
Loading unloaded module list

MODULE_NAME: nt

FAULTING_MODULE: 81800000 nt

DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP: 4549ae00

BUGCHECK_STR: 0x1a_41287

CUSTOMER_CRASH_COUNT: 1

DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: WRONG_SYMBOLS

LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER: from 8188fa74 to 818a9ef2

STACK_TEXT:
WARNING: Stack unwind information not available. Following frames may be wrong.
ab64dbc8 8188fa74 00000001 00000210 00000000 nt+0xa9ef2
ab64dbe0 81824dd3 badb0d00 00000210 8748f000 nt+0x8fa74
ab64dc6c 81824fde 00000210 00000000 00000000 nt+0x24dd3
ab64dca8 819e9817 300bc000 840107e8 ab646604 nt+0x24fde
ab64dd44 8188c96a ffffffff 300ad000 00000000 nt+0x1e9817
ab64dd64 77220f34 badb0d00 0012f64c 00000000 nt+0x8c96a
ab64dd68 badb0d00 0012f64c 00000000 00000000 0x77220f34
ab64dd6c 0012f64c 00000000 00000000 00000000 0xbadb0d00
ab64dd70 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 0x12f64c


STACK_COMMAND: kb

FOLLOWUP_IP:
nt+a9ef2
818a9ef2 8b07 mov eax,dword ptr [edi]

SYMBOL_STACK_INDEX: 0

FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner

IMAGE_NAME: ntkrnlpa.exe

SYMBOL_NAME: nt+a9ef2

BUCKET_ID: WRONG_SYMBOLS

Followup: MachineOwner
---------

I have seen ntkrnpla.exe come up before in the dump logs. Now this is where I am confused. Is this a problem with my memory or is this a module problem? In my last post I said how I got the error about the Modular Installer having an error. It seems that ntkrnpla.exe is some sort of module. I am going to try my replacement RAM and see what happens.
#44
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q6600 G0 @ 3.6 ASUS Rampage Formula X48 ASUS 4870x2 8 GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
WD 2x250 GB Raid 0 Vista 64bit/Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit beta Dell 24 Inch Flat Panel OCZ ModXStream 780 W 
CaseMouse
Antec Nine Hundred Logitech MX518 
  hide details  
Reply
#44
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q6600 G0 @ 3.6 ASUS Rampage Formula X48 ASUS 4870x2 8 GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
WD 2x250 GB Raid 0 Vista 64bit/Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit beta Dell 24 Inch Flat Panel OCZ ModXStream 780 W 
CaseMouse
Antec Nine Hundred Logitech MX518 
  hide details  
Reply
post #22 of 39
If the replacement ram doesn't change things, then I would put the 830 back in to make sure this isn't being caused by the new cpu.

Refresh my memory, the 965EE is still an 800 FSB or is it 1066?
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Xeon 3050 Abit IP35 Pro Ver 1.1 EVGA 8800GTS 320mb 4x1024 Crucial Ballistix DDR2-800 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Hitachi 2x80 Sata II Raid 0 Asus Lightscribe Sata Vista Ultimate 64bit Samsung 731B 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Recycled Vaio Ultra X2 Connect 550 Old Compaq Tower Recycled Vaio 
  hide details  
Reply
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Xeon 3050 Abit IP35 Pro Ver 1.1 EVGA 8800GTS 320mb 4x1024 Crucial Ballistix DDR2-800 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Hitachi 2x80 Sata II Raid 0 Asus Lightscribe Sata Vista Ultimate 64bit Samsung 731B 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Recycled Vaio Ultra X2 Connect 550 Old Compaq Tower Recycled Vaio 
  hide details  
Reply
post #23 of 39
OK.....I just checked the intel specs. Here is what I think is going on. The 965EE is a 1066 FSB CPU and I think you said you had an nforce chipset motherboard? So the bios has the FSB and the memory linked and the faster FSB is causing the memory to run at a higher speed maybe?

You will need to use cpuz to verify that, but I think that is what is causing your troubles.
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Xeon 3050 Abit IP35 Pro Ver 1.1 EVGA 8800GTS 320mb 4x1024 Crucial Ballistix DDR2-800 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Hitachi 2x80 Sata II Raid 0 Asus Lightscribe Sata Vista Ultimate 64bit Samsung 731B 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Recycled Vaio Ultra X2 Connect 550 Old Compaq Tower Recycled Vaio 
  hide details  
Reply
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Xeon 3050 Abit IP35 Pro Ver 1.1 EVGA 8800GTS 320mb 4x1024 Crucial Ballistix DDR2-800 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Hitachi 2x80 Sata II Raid 0 Asus Lightscribe Sata Vista Ultimate 64bit Samsung 731B 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Recycled Vaio Ultra X2 Connect 550 Old Compaq Tower Recycled Vaio 
  hide details  
Reply
post #24 of 39
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jph1589 View Post
If the replacement ram doesn't change things, then I would put the 830 back in to make sure this isn't being caused by the new cpu.

Refresh my memory, the 965EE is still an 800 FSB or is it 1066?
I have the replacement RAM in now so now I am going to see if I get another BSOD. Last time I got it I was downloading a file with Fire Fox and browsing the internet.

The 965 EE is 1066 FSB - the mobo I have supports it and when I check the system setting in the BIOS it recognizes the FSB change. I have to think that this is a memory problem but we will find out soon enough.

Any idea what the modular installer error i got was when I first booted up vista?
#44
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q6600 G0 @ 3.6 ASUS Rampage Formula X48 ASUS 4870x2 8 GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
WD 2x250 GB Raid 0 Vista 64bit/Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit beta Dell 24 Inch Flat Panel OCZ ModXStream 780 W 
CaseMouse
Antec Nine Hundred Logitech MX518 
  hide details  
Reply
#44
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q6600 G0 @ 3.6 ASUS Rampage Formula X48 ASUS 4870x2 8 GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
WD 2x250 GB Raid 0 Vista 64bit/Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit beta Dell 24 Inch Flat Panel OCZ ModXStream 780 W 
CaseMouse
Antec Nine Hundred Logitech MX518 
  hide details  
Reply
post #25 of 39
Quote:
Originally Posted by pcrowle View Post
I have the replacement RAM in now so now I am going to see if I get another BSOD. Last time I got it I was downloading a file with Fire Fox and browsing the internet.

The 965 EE is 1066 FSB - the mobo I have supports it and when I check the system setting in the BIOS it recognizes the FSB change. I have to think that this is a memory problem but we will find out soon enough.

Any idea what the modular installer error i got was when I first booted up vista?
Read one post above yours.
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Xeon 3050 Abit IP35 Pro Ver 1.1 EVGA 8800GTS 320mb 4x1024 Crucial Ballistix DDR2-800 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Hitachi 2x80 Sata II Raid 0 Asus Lightscribe Sata Vista Ultimate 64bit Samsung 731B 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Recycled Vaio Ultra X2 Connect 550 Old Compaq Tower Recycled Vaio 
  hide details  
Reply
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Xeon 3050 Abit IP35 Pro Ver 1.1 EVGA 8800GTS 320mb 4x1024 Crucial Ballistix DDR2-800 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Hitachi 2x80 Sata II Raid 0 Asus Lightscribe Sata Vista Ultimate 64bit Samsung 731B 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Recycled Vaio Ultra X2 Connect 550 Old Compaq Tower Recycled Vaio 
  hide details  
Reply
post #26 of 39
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jph1589 View Post
OK.....I just checked the intel specs. Here is what I think is going on. The 965EE is a 1066 FSB CPU and I think you said you had an nforce chipset motherboard? So the bios has the FSB and the memory linked and the faster FSB is causing the memory to run at a higher speed maybe?

You will need to use cpuz to verify that, but I think that is what is causing your troubles.
I flashed my bios and cleared my CMOS - the increase in FSB would still cause problems?
#44
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q6600 G0 @ 3.6 ASUS Rampage Formula X48 ASUS 4870x2 8 GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
WD 2x250 GB Raid 0 Vista 64bit/Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit beta Dell 24 Inch Flat Panel OCZ ModXStream 780 W 
CaseMouse
Antec Nine Hundred Logitech MX518 
  hide details  
Reply
#44
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q6600 G0 @ 3.6 ASUS Rampage Formula X48 ASUS 4870x2 8 GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
WD 2x250 GB Raid 0 Vista 64bit/Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit beta Dell 24 Inch Flat Panel OCZ ModXStream 780 W 
CaseMouse
Antec Nine Hundred Logitech MX518 
  hide details  
Reply
post #27 of 39
Quote:
Originally Posted by pcrowle View Post
I flashed my bios and cleared my CMOS - the increase in FSB would still cause problems?
It could if the memory is running at a higher speed now than it was with the 830 cpu. Do you know what speed your memory was running before you changed the cpu?
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Xeon 3050 Abit IP35 Pro Ver 1.1 EVGA 8800GTS 320mb 4x1024 Crucial Ballistix DDR2-800 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Hitachi 2x80 Sata II Raid 0 Asus Lightscribe Sata Vista Ultimate 64bit Samsung 731B 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Recycled Vaio Ultra X2 Connect 550 Old Compaq Tower Recycled Vaio 
  hide details  
Reply
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Xeon 3050 Abit IP35 Pro Ver 1.1 EVGA 8800GTS 320mb 4x1024 Crucial Ballistix DDR2-800 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Hitachi 2x80 Sata II Raid 0 Asus Lightscribe Sata Vista Ultimate 64bit Samsung 731B 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Recycled Vaio Ultra X2 Connect 550 Old Compaq Tower Recycled Vaio 
  hide details  
Reply
post #28 of 39
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jph1589 View Post
It could if the memory is running at a higher speed now than it was with the 830 cpu. Do you know what speed your memory was running before you changed the cpu?
Not a clue, whatever would have been default. I am downloading the cpuid software right now
#44
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q6600 G0 @ 3.6 ASUS Rampage Formula X48 ASUS 4870x2 8 GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
WD 2x250 GB Raid 0 Vista 64bit/Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit beta Dell 24 Inch Flat Panel OCZ ModXStream 780 W 
CaseMouse
Antec Nine Hundred Logitech MX518 
  hide details  
Reply
#44
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q6600 G0 @ 3.6 ASUS Rampage Formula X48 ASUS 4870x2 8 GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
WD 2x250 GB Raid 0 Vista 64bit/Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit beta Dell 24 Inch Flat Panel OCZ ModXStream 780 W 
CaseMouse
Antec Nine Hundred Logitech MX518 
  hide details  
Reply
post #29 of 39
Quote:
Originally Posted by pcrowle View Post
Not a clue, whatever would have been default. I am downloading the cpuid software right now
Do you mean cpuz? And did I understand you correctly that you installed new memory a few minutes ago? What speed is that memory?
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Xeon 3050 Abit IP35 Pro Ver 1.1 EVGA 8800GTS 320mb 4x1024 Crucial Ballistix DDR2-800 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Hitachi 2x80 Sata II Raid 0 Asus Lightscribe Sata Vista Ultimate 64bit Samsung 731B 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Recycled Vaio Ultra X2 Connect 550 Old Compaq Tower Recycled Vaio 
  hide details  
Reply
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Xeon 3050 Abit IP35 Pro Ver 1.1 EVGA 8800GTS 320mb 4x1024 Crucial Ballistix DDR2-800 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Hitachi 2x80 Sata II Raid 0 Asus Lightscribe Sata Vista Ultimate 64bit Samsung 731B 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Recycled Vaio Ultra X2 Connect 550 Old Compaq Tower Recycled Vaio 
  hide details  
Reply
post #30 of 39
Thread Starter 
What should I be looking for with CPU Z?
#44
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q6600 G0 @ 3.6 ASUS Rampage Formula X48 ASUS 4870x2 8 GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
WD 2x250 GB Raid 0 Vista 64bit/Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit beta Dell 24 Inch Flat Panel OCZ ModXStream 780 W 
CaseMouse
Antec Nine Hundred Logitech MX518 
  hide details  
Reply
#44
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q6600 G0 @ 3.6 ASUS Rampage Formula X48 ASUS 4870x2 8 GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
WD 2x250 GB Raid 0 Vista 64bit/Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit beta Dell 24 Inch Flat Panel OCZ ModXStream 780 W 
CaseMouse
Antec Nine Hundred Logitech MX518 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Windows
Overclock.net › Forums › Software, Programming and Coding › Operating Systems › Windows › BSOD errors - Hardware or OS?