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Don't do it.

but if you must do it....make sure you take video of it and post it here for our viewing...
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Mineral oil PC's look and sound cool until you decide you want to upgrade a component in one.
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it would be awesome to build a mineral oil computer as say, I dunno, a media center or something, something that you're not going to need to upgrade really. Use an old system that you can just trash later. Put it into a custom acrylic tank in the living room hooked up to the entertainment system....

Friends come over. WTH??? Oh, don't worry about that, I'll feed it later biggrin.gif

If you do build a mineral oil PC.. .make sure you use bulk head connectors to isolate the oil though. Otherwise you'll end up with oil wicking down the cables and leaving a mess all over the floor. If you have a significant other they just might shoot you...
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some liquids don't conduct electricity
but still bad idea to submerge your PC

Well, distilled water is non conductive. The catch is, that it must be *VERY* pure to not conduct. What get you is, that anything contamining the water - off your mainboard will go.
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De-Ionizing cartridges remove all of the electrically conductive substances from the water. You should make the loop airtight because airborne substances will contaminate the water causing potential conductivity. Absolutely pure H20 does not conduct low voltages at all. WARNING: Do not try this at home. I am not affiliated with this concept and am presenting it purely for entertainment purposes.

I dubt that they can work that well, because there will be TON's of stuff going off from averge PC. Just classic TIM under the heatsink could be a killer to the project.

Reaching and keeping absolutely pure H2O is a challenge that is IMHO too much for home user w/o endless budget and perfectionist mind.
But sure it would be "one of kind", if this project ever get done. I cannot imagine washing the components to such purity, that not even ions remain on them, much less optimistic I'm about longetivity of the pure water state. IIRC some ionization happens even as result of light passing thru water, if I'm not mistaken, so... Probably next to impossible.

Hopefully somebody took the challenge and prove me wrong thumb.gif
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If I remember well, in water (even pure one), there is a chemical equilibrium between H30+ and OH- .
This equilibrium gives the PH of the water by the relation PH = - log_10([H30+]).
Water at ambient temperature having a PH of 7, that gives a concentration of [H30+] = 10^-7 mole/L.
As this is pure water, there is an equal amount of [OH-] ions.

This quantity is really small (1 mole of water is 18 grams, so this quantity is in the order of 3,6 µg of ions as 2*10^-7 moles of water gives 10^-7 mole of each ion), but is still there even if you don't have any dust in your water. The effect is a really slow corroding of what can be, thus providing the water with foreign elements.

This quantity increase with the temperature. At atmospheric pressure, it ranges from 10^-7.4690 at 0°C to 10^-6.1325 at 100°C.

So even if you prevent any dust to come in the water from the outside, the water itself will tend to make some from what it touches, hopefully it will takes some time for the effect to be noticeable.

Distilled water would however be a good idea to use when tempting things like the waterproofing experiment http://www.overclock.net/t/1540031/showme-s-motherboard-cpu-ram-waterproofing-experiment . The use of distilled water still reduce the risk of short circuit over tap water.
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post #46 of 57
In theory, if you could keep the water totally pure forever it would work. But that's not gonna happen.

People have used mineral oil as a cool science-fair style project, but in reality it doesn't work very well performance wise because it's a closed thermodynamic system, and because oil doesn't conduct heat as well as water.
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Sure would have a positive effect. Due to plenty of research by others that by submerging it in distilled water will indeed cool it. As it fries all power will go off leaving you pc at the mere ambient temperature of the liquid.

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post #48 of 57
Has someone posted Linus's video yet?

Youtube - search for "linustechtips mineral oil"

can't do it now, I'm at work.
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Dielectric Silicone Fluids
http://www.clearcoproducts.com/dielectric-silicone-fluids.html

Prepare to shell out truck loads of $$$!

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Low Temperature Dielectric Silicone Fluids (-80°C to 220°C) are clear, colorless and odorless linear Polydimethylsiloxane fluids that are characterized by their high dielectric strength, low viscosity, low viscosity-to-temperature coefficients (little viscosity change at low temperatures), low pour points, stability @ low temperatures, and compatibility with virtually all surfaces including metal, rubbers and plastics. The PSF-2cSt and PSF-5cSt are widely used in Freeze Drying and heat transfer applications that require a fluid with low viscosity and low pour point.

Wide Temperature Dielectric Silicone Fluids (-50°C to 230°C) are clear, colorless and odorless linear Polydimethylsiloxane fluids (CAS# 63148-62-9). They are characterized by their dielectric strength, high flash points, high thermal stability, high resistance to oxidation, low vapor pressure, and compatibility with virtually all surfaces including metal, rubbers and plastics.

High Temperature Dielectric Silicone Fluids (25°C to 300°C) are clear, colorless and odorless phenyl-class silicone fluids. They are characterized by their high dielectric strength, high flash points, high thermal stability, high resistance to oxidation, low vapor pressure and compatibility with virtually all surfaces including metal, rubbers and plastics.
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If I remember well, in water (even pure one), there is a chemical equilibrium between H30+ and OH- .
This equilibrium gives the PH of the water by the relation PH = - log_10([H30+]).
Water at ambient temperature having a PH of 7, that gives a concentration of [H30+] = 10^-7 mole/L.
As this is pure water, there is an equal amount of [OH-] ions.

This quantity is really small (1 mole of water is 18 grams, so this quantity is in the order of 3,6 µg of ions as 2*10^-7 moles of water gives 10^7 mole of each ion), but is still there even if you don't have any dust in your water. The effect is a really slow corroding of what can be, thus providing the water with foreign elements.

This quantity increase with the temperature. At atmospheric pressure, it ranges from 10^-7.4690 at 0°C to 10^-6.1325 at 100.

So even if you prevent any dust to come in the water from the outside, the water itself will tend to make some from what it touches, hopefully it will takes some time for the effect to be noticeable.

Distilled water would however be a good idea to use when tempting things like the waterproofing experiment http://www.overclock.net/t/1540031/showme-s-motherboard-cpu-ram-waterproofing-experiment . The use of distilled water still reduce the risk of short circuit over tap water.

Commendable memory, if I say so myself.
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