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Thanks for the info Dale, question about your setup, your using a higher bus speed and a lower multiplier, any advantages to that over x15 mult and lower bus?

yes I also have a Windsor, our comps are practically the same including cooling yet you manage to keep your temps at a nice level, mine seem to go just around that 60deg. More voltage = more heat, so im expecting even more if i raise the v to atleast 1.55.

what RPM are your two CPU fans running at, I only have the one atm running 1600RPM
Nice you finaly got 3.4. Put the voltage back 1 notch. Or do 1.4375 and go into advance voltages and then put the offset On so it sits between 1.536 and 1.55.

With a higher bus speed it will make it a little faster, also your HT Link will be faster which is a nice little performance boost.

I had this CPU at 358*9.5 my old motherboard, GB M57SLI-S4 but the core voltage went upto 1.7 with stress testing so I couldn't test it, way too hot. This motherboard doesn't like multipliers under 11.

My fans usually run at 1400-1700RPM, 100% is 2200RPM which is way to loud, so for stress testing overnight I usually do 1800-1900 but for games just 1400-1700 Works well, depending on what game and CPU usage. works well. I will try it right now with 1 fan instead of 2 and see if it makes a difference.
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Nice you finaly got 3.4. Put the voltage back 1 notch. Or do 1.4375 and go into advance voltages and then put the offset On so it sits between 1.536 and 1.55.

With a higher bus speed it will make it a little faster, also your HT Link will be faster which is a nice little performance boost.

I had this CPU at 358*9.5 my old motherboard, GB M57SLI-S4 but the core voltage went upto 1.7 with stress testing so I couldn't test it, way too hot. This motherboard doesn't like multipliers under 11.

My fans usually run at 1400-1700RPM, 100% is 2200RPM which is way to loud, so for stress testing overnight I usually do 1800-1900 but for games just 1400-1700 Works well, depending on what game and CPU usage. works well. I will try it right now with 1 fan instead of 2 and see if it makes a difference.
well before I got stable I tried to lower that multiplie, I tried 243x14 but my PC somehow didnt like that, I needed to reset just so it booted up and when it did it was only seconds before a blue screen.

thats when I went back to x15, set it to 4505MHz and by single steps kept increasing my voltage then running Prime, finally I started getting somewhere with a higher voltage, then with 1.525 it passed. you say to notch it down 1, but I was already there and it didnt pass.

"Or do 1.4375 and go into advance voltages and then put the offset On so it sits between 1.536 and 1.55"

that there totally confuses me.

as for your fan test.. that would be sweet, I could see the improvements I could get with another fan
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Yea I forgot to mention that, 6000+ don't like 14x multi either.

With the 1.4375, put your voltage to that then go down to advance voltage options then make the first value, the offset one Enabled.

A 2nd fan doesn't make much difference at all, 1 fan is enough but try getting a Scythe 1900RPM fan and see how that goes.
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I was actually thinking about a few of these fans,

Coolermaster R4-L2R-20CG 120MM Green LED Case Fan 2000RPM 90CFM 19DBA 3/4 Pin
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Silverstone 120MM FM121 Case Fan 800-2500RPM 17-39.5DBA MAX. 110CFM W/ Black Knob

youre saying no need for 2 fans? so one of these on heatsink should do, im thinking one on front case and one on back.

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With the 1.4375, put your voltage to that then go down to advance voltage options then make the first value, the offset one Enabled.
ok I guess Ill have to go into BIOS and check this out to understand.. will it keep my PC stable? and maybe lower the temps?
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The Silverstone one looks pretty neat with the variable speeds. Yea 1 fan on the heatsink works just as good as 2. And I have the 1.4375+Offset on mine and its stable, it should get a little cooler aswell.
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aweomse info.. will try that as soon as I get home
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Hey Dale you seem to be the club guru

As I just started Oc'ing my 6000+ so far I have a couple q's from you..

- I see you recommending putting the PCI frequency at 101, why is that? I've read around that it should be locked at 100.

Right now I am still in the process of finding my processor limits according to the AM2 guide on here.

Right now I have these settings:
FSB - 220
Multi - 15
RAM Volt - 2.1
RAM Timing - 5-5-5-18-26 (have to stress this next)
CPU Volt - 1.400
HT Link - x5
CPU Speed - 3.3GHz
(2 min stable orthos, still in process of finding the limits, then on to ram)

A few settings I am not sure how to use though,
In my options I can break down the NB and SB overvoltages into 2 options.
Under both of them they start out at 1.2v and go up.
- How do those add to my vcore?
- There is also another option, vcore Overvoltage, I just want to confirm that this option adds something like 1.5v to the vcore correct?

I had set the vcore to around 1.375 and then added the overvoltage and when i looked in cpuz It showed I was at 1.505 or something, and my temps were already hitting 60 with 1 min of orthos...

Also there are some clock skew options I don't understand what they do, any insight?

I really think temps are going to be stopping me, I would have liked around a 3.4-5ghz oc, but I think around 3.3 i'm going to top out.

- Although I haven't tried using lower multis/higher fsb. Does that work better for these chips?

Thanks
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Thanks mate, Im not a guru but I do my best

For the PCI-E 101Mhz lock thing, I read a while ago that sometimes it makes it stabler incase it drops, even though it shouldn't, but all motherboards are different.

With the Chipset volts, my NB stock voltage is 1.2v but I boost it up to 1.3v because I have a 1300Mhz HT Link.

The NB<->SB stock voltage for the M2N32 is 1.3v, but I put it up to 1.375 for stability all around, also helps a bit with the RAM too.

I personally wouldn't touch the SB chipset volts, its one of those ones where stock voltage is enough for OCing.

The overvoltage, it usually boosts it up my 200mv, but I boosts it more from experience. I tried 3.5ghz this morning, put the Voltage to 1.5625 and enabled the Over voltage/Offset and it went to 1.66 volts, no wonder it booted!

Clock skew options, is that for RAM? I it is I wouldn't touch it but if its for something else, I have no idea sorry.

I have never used higher multipliers as I like to have a Higher FSB, HT Link and RAM speed. Lowest I have got is 358*9.5 but I wasnt able to test it because of my old motherboard would auto boost my CPU to 1.7v during stressing for even 20 seconds. I say the 12 or 13x multplier is the best, good HT Link and Good RAM Speeds.

Here is a formula for RAM speeds:

RAM Speed= CPU Multi * Ram Ratio / 2 then round up to nearest whole number then: Clock Speed * The number above * 2 for DDR.

Here are the ratios:

400Mhz= 2
533Mhz= 1.5
667Mhz= 1.2
800Mhz= 1

So for my current overclock:

13 * 1 / 2= 6.5 Round up to 7

262*13= 3406 / 7= 486.57 * 2= 973Mhz.

I'm Working on 3.5Ghz now, Ill see if I can get it stable.
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Good good, So NB is for getting higher HT's stable. When I was finding my FSB limits I had to bump the HT to 4x at 290 fsb, and to 3x at 340. So I can get the HT up pretty high before that becomes a problem. Right now I have:
FSB 220
x 15
vcore @ 1.3 + the Overvoltage, making it 1.424 while its doing orthos but fluctuates up to 1.472
So far hottest temp is 58, but its keeping around 56 atm.

24 minutes into Orthos and still going.

Strange thing is I had the vcore up to 1.475 with no over voltage, and it didn't get passed 7 min of orthos... so possibly there is a difference between them.

I think after this fails or when I stop it, I am going to ghetto rig another fan to the back of my cooler, and then I will be trying some lower multis + higher fsb

Repped as well
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Been awhile but this is what I had when I was playing. Notice that I went with a low multi. Found that I got the best benchmark results that way.
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