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post #211 of 1595
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The Athlon 6000+ performs better than the 5000 BE even when it's overclocked above 3 ghz..I've read both of the reviews on Anandtech & Tom's Hardware. Might as well just buy it. The 5000 is going to cost you 130 on newegg, and a sufficient air cooler will cost more than enough to break above the 160 dollar 6000+ cost, plus you get the L2 1mb cache on the 6000.

I will agree with you though when you wouldn't buy the 6400. 30 more bucks for 200 more mhz, Psh.
If you're going to include the price of a cooler for the 5000BE you should do the same for the 6000 as well. Say you spend $50 on a cooler... that brings the BE to ~$180 and the 6000 to ~$210 (~$220 if you use the price I paid early this summer). The BE can actually clock higher than the 6000 in many instances. The performance should be about equal or close enough for my purposes.

The way I look at it... if I was going to buy now, I'd save myself $30 and get the BE. The performance would be about equal, if not even better.
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post #212 of 1595
the 5000BE clocked faster will die against the 6000+ in converting and benchmarking cache is where its at alot of the time :/ that's why intel is kicking amd butZ
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post #213 of 1595
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1.5250v
temps stable at 35c
make sure you drop the cpu to nb ht speed down to 3xcpu
3.27ghz ran for a week now gaming, benchmarked.
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post #214 of 1595
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Hello Hillbilly! Welcome to OCN and our club!

I seems like you have a good temp for that voltage. Are you using coretemp to read that under othos load? I worry that your temps are actually higher under load.

Also, I would think you're taking quite the performance hit by changing your ht to nb speed that low. Do you mean the HT multiplier, where the default is x5? If so then that isn't the same thing.
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i got it on 3.2 stable
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If you're going to include the price of a cooler for the 5000BE you should do the same for the 6000 as well. Say you spend $50 on a cooler... that brings the BE to ~$180 and the 6000 to ~$210 (~$220 if you use the price I paid early this summer). The BE can actually clock higher than the 6000 in many instances. The performance should be about equal or close enough for my purposes.

The way I look at it... if I was going to buy now, I'd save myself $30 and get the BE. The performance would be about equal, if not even better.
I was actually hinting at the fact that the 6000 is better at stock than a 5000 BE oc'd past 3ghz, so there is no reason to factor in the cost of aftermarket cooling with the 6000 because if you purchase retail from newegg you get a pretty good stock cooler. This all comes back down to my original argument that if you are going to spend the extra money on "worthy air cooling" to get a 3.2-3.3 ghz BE, you may as well save yourself the money, cause a stock 6000 will perform better.
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Hello Hillbilly! Welcome to OCN and our club!

I seems like you have a good temp for that voltage. Are you using coretemp to read that under othos load? I worry that your temps are actually higher under load.

Also, I would think you're taking quite the performance hit by changing your ht to nb speed that low. Do you mean the HT multiplier, where the default is x5? If so then that isn't the same thing.
i use 3 diff temp monitors and there all within 1c either way so i averaged them out ive never used othos i have hot cpu tester pro and just run heavy games that are cpu demanding as well as gpu i did start getting some bsod's as of late and dropped the core v back to 1.4875 and raised to 4x cpu frequency but from all i have read there is no performance loss of any kind from doing that. it just helps stablize the oc. im new to ocing but have read a ton and im not saying im right but it seems to be great. even brought my vista rating from 5.5 to 5.8 on the cpu
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post #218 of 1595
im sorry its the cpu to nb freq. im a noob lol
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I was actually hinting at the fact that the 6000 is better at stock than a 5000 BE oc'd past 3ghz, so there is no reason to factor in the cost of aftermarket cooling with the 6000 because if you purchase retail from newegg you get a pretty good stock cooler. This all comes back down to my original argument that if you are going to spend the extra money on "worthy air cooling" to get a 3.2-3.3 ghz BE, you may as well save yourself the money, cause a stock 6000 will perform better.
Ah ok then that makes sense. I haven't seen any benchmarks comparing the two, but I imagin for me the difference would be negligable.

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im sorry its the cpu to nb freq. im a noob lol
I'm still confused on what this setting is. Maybe I'm not just use to it being called that. Anyway, what are the optional settings? x1-x5? Or does it go up to 16? And don't worry about being a "noob", we all start out somewhere... and hey, we all learn something new every day
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i got it on 3.2 stable
Cool, want to share your settings? Refer to my original post. Good job so far
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