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Hi guys I posted this on another thread by accident so please dont get mad and band me..so here it is below...Thanks

Hi everyone ive never overclocked my cpu or mobo before but I tried to with the information out there and cant figure out how to even get into the setting to change the cpu speed..I have the m3a32-mvp delux wifi and a amd athlon 64 x2 dual core 6000+ 3.1 ghz cpu..I need a steb by step help here please can some one help me..for the other web help did not look the same in the bios as when i went into bios and couldnot find the setting...Thanks much...Steve
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Hi guys I posted this on another thread by accident so please dont get mad and band me..so here it is below...Thanks

Hi everyone ive never overclocked my cpu or mobo before but I tried to with the information out there and cant figure out how to even get into the setting to change the cpu speed..I have the m3a32-mvp delux wifi and a amd athlon 64 x2 dual core 6000+ 3.1 ghz cpu..I need a steb by step help here please can some one help me..for the other web help did not look the same in the bios as when i went into bios and couldnot find the setting...Thanks much...Steve
Hi and welcome to OCN! I'm affraid I'm not very familiar with that board so I can't tell you exactly where the overclocking options are on it. Your owners manual of the motherboard should have a section listing the different options that you can change in the BIOS.

Look for something labeled "FSB". On an AMD system this is one of the ways to change your CPU speed. Explaining the whole process can be a bit lengthy depending on how much you already know. I recommend looking at some of the links in my "Overclocking Guides for Beginners" link in my signature. If you have any more specific questions feel free to ask
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Useless.

Settings HT Link 600MHz, DDR 400, multiplier 14, reference clock from 210 to 225 with 5MHz increments worked just fine. At 230, orthos failed, up to 1.425, 230 ok, 235 fails. Upped to 1.45, failed, 1.475, failed as well. Temperatures were now up in 38C in coretemp and as i know that to be off I estimated 48-50C in bios. Time to set it back down, tried to put the RAM back to normalcy to see if I could maybe get something useful out of it.. Same settings except DDR667, reference clock 230, vcore 1.425, failed.

To think I bought a new mobo and a new cooler to try and get the 'potential' out of this thing (after being dumb enough to buy MSI first, which was even more useless). The mobo is good, I tried setting everything down and testing the reference clock, it went to 290 without any changes in voltage or anything else. It seems the only stable settings would give me increases of 100 or 200 MHz, and if that's it I'll rather just run settings I know to be stable because I doubt I'll notice that at all.

With my luck the Nehalem socket will be huge and I won't be able to get adapters for my TRUE for it.. That way every penny in this dumb thing has been wasted.
Hey bowman, try looking at "My Overclocking Thread" in my signature and check out the spreadsheet. You may find that some of the settings I have listed will work for you. With the TRUE you could probably bump the vcore up to 1.5v as long as it's installed correctly and your temps aren't reaching above 57C or so. The major thing is to change 1 thing at a time so you know what might be causing the instability by eliminating outside factors. CPU is king, so get that as high as you can then worry about your ram.

Hope that helps, let me know if you have more questions. Good luck
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I have a Lian Li PC A70B. It's a huge case, with nice airflow. Though I think I may have found the problem. I have the fan on the heatsink for my GPU blowing upwards. This causes hot air to blow onto the zalman, which might be lowering it's effectiveness. I'm going to turn the fan around on the video card and reapply thermal paste on the CPU.
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Hey all, pretty late for me to be chiming in on this thread but here goes...

Running right now at 3.27, 1.45v (15 x 218). Cant seem to get it higher than that...Ram right now is how the mb detected it (6-6-6 instead of 5-5-4). Havnt seen any real difference if I manually setup the ram in the bios.

Im not sure if I should at this point keep trying to up the cpu speed (temps are good so plenty of room there), tune the ram, or start to oc the video cards.

Shamefull thing is that I cant seem to break 9500 in 3dmark06 (with 2x 8800gt). I started using the excel document posted in this thread, and at the start of my testing i got 11517 in 3dmark (stock settings)...havnt been able to get over 10,000 since, even after setting everything back to auto.

Hopefully someone might have some advice.
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Hey all, pretty late for me to be chiming in on this thread but here goes...

Running right now at 3.27, 1.45v (15 x 218). Cant seem to get it higher than that...Ram right now is how the mb detected it (6-6-6 instead of 5-5-4). Havnt seen any real difference if I manually setup the ram in the bios.

Im not sure if I should at this point keep trying to up the cpu speed (temps are good so plenty of room there), tune the ram, or start to oc the video cards.

Shamefull thing is that I cant seem to break 9500 in 3dmark06 (with 2x 8800gt). I started using the excel document posted in this thread, and at the start of my testing i got 11517 in 3dmark (stock settings)...havnt been able to get over 10,000 since, even after setting everything back to auto.

Hopefully someone might have some advice.
It's never too late! Welcome to OCN and our cool club

If your temps are good, try bumping your voltage up to 1.5v. Just make sure it doesn't get above mid 50's C under full load. Also, set your ram to the next slowest speed so that you can be sure it isn't the ram that is limiting your overclock. You should also manually set your timings to something stable. If the x5 HTT multi isn't working for you, try dropping it to 4x.

When you reach an OC that you like with the cpu, then you should work on the ram. Most ddr2 ram can go with times 4-4-4-12 or 5-5-5-15 at 2.2v. After you find your max cpu, you could drop your cpu multi to x14 and set fsb equal to a number that gives you the same cpu speed. This will keep your cpu running at the same speed and overclock your ram. Usually 2gb sticks can't overclock as well as 1gb sticks so don't be too dissappointed if you can't reach speeds seen by 2x1gb kits.

Overclocking your video card is independent of your cpu and ram so they should not interfere with each other.
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Looks like its running stable (orthos for 2hrs so far)...

ref: 237
mul: 14
clock: 3315 (bounces around 15-18)
vcore: 1.5
htt is at 4...would not pass orthos with 5.

Orthos for 2hrs gave 56c with ambient temp between 20c and 22c; could probably do with another case fan. SuperPi came in at 25.516 (28.84 when i started).

Im going to next try to lower the vcore until i find the lowest that this config will run stable; with the goal of trying to shave off a few degrees from the load temp.

Great thread WBaS, lots of knowledge here; and the excel document really helped (a few quick mods and im using a copy of it for my video cards). Id give u money if i had any lol
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Looks like its running stable (orthos for 2hrs so far)...

ref: 237
mul: 14
clock: 3315 (bounces around 15-18)
vcore: 1.5
htt is at 4...would not pass orthos with 5.

Orthos for 2hrs gave 56c with ambient temp between 20c and 22c; could probably do with another case fan. SuperPi came in at 25.516 (28.84 when i started).

Im going to next try to lower the vcore until i find the lowest that this config will run stable; with the goal of trying to shave off a few degrees from the load temp.

Great thread WBaS, lots of knowledge here; and the excel document really helped (a few quick mods and im using a copy of it for my video cards). Id give u money if i had any lol
Thanks idlehands I really appreciate your feedback . I'm glad this thread has been a help to you... it seems like you are doing quite well now. Keep us posted on your progress and good luck!

Oh and by the way... what are you doing with your ram currently?
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I have the ram right now at 5-5-4-15 2.1v which is stock for those sticks i think (15 / 18? cant remember); with the x14 multi theyre at 470.

Im happy with the 3.3ghz on the cpu so once i convince myself that its stable (24hrs orthos), ill most likely try to tweak up those settings...although i havnt read to much about oc'ing ram, yet.

You said that 1gb sticks can oc better, but I thought that with our cpu its better to have 2 sticks (less work for cpu-built-in-controller?)?...i have 4x 1gb ocz ddr2 800 sitting on my desk, would i be better to use 2x 2gb sticks or the 4x 1gb sticks? both sets are the exact same brand and speed.
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I have the ram right now at 5-5-4-15 2.1v which is stock for those sticks i think (15 / 18? cant remember); with the x14 multi theyre at 470.

Im happy with the 3.3ghz on the cpu so once i convince myself that its stable (24hrs orthos), ill most likely try to tweak up those settings...although i havnt read to much about oc'ing ram, yet.

You said that 1gb sticks can oc better, but I thought that with our cpu its better to have 2 sticks (less work for cpu-built-in-controller?)?...i have 4x 1gb ocz ddr2 800 sitting on my desk, would i be better to use 2x 2gb sticks or the 4x 1gb sticks? both sets are the exact same brand and speed.
Overclocking ram is done by changing the FSB and dividor. The goal in overclocking ram is to use the lowest cpu multi and the highest FSB with the highest ram setting possible. So once you find your max cpu clock, you can come up with different fsb and x multiplier combinations to achieve that same cpu clock. Decreasing your cpu multi allows you to run at a higher FSB which then speeds up your ram.

To clarify with the 1gb vs 2 gb sticks.... a kit of 2x1gb might OC better than 2x2gb. And 2x1gb should OC better than 4x1gb as should 2x2gb OC better than 4x2gb. This isn't always the case. I'm sure plenty of people can get 2gb sticks to OC just as high as 1gb sticks, but it's not always the case. Basically, the fewer the sticks the better and the smaller the capacity the better (as far as overclocking potential). This doesn't mean less performance though as 4gb of ram is usually more beneficial than 2gb.

Hope that clears some things up. If not then keep asking and eventually I'll be able to explain it well. :-P
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