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I tried pushing the fsb to 220 to clock it up to 3300 mhz this morning. It ran fine, until I tried to open CPU-Z, at which point the system locked up. So I agree with you, software clocking has its limits. I may test the manual method to OC this later, as something in the equation has made it unstable above 3200 mhz. Manually going through like the overclocker's guides tell you,let you test the limits of each piece of the problem.
I am happy at present with my 3.2ghz speed, and more than likely will start testing to see what each component can handle. Temperature is my limiting factor. So I will keep you informed as I test these. I am guessing it will hit 3.4ghz at least, maybe a little over that.
I hope you can get that 3.4Ghz. That is usually the upper limit to these chips. What vcore are you using by the way? I was able to get 3.25Ghz but that was with a vcore of 1.475 (which then increases to 1.52ish under load).
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I hope you can get that 3.4Ghz. That is usually the upper limit to these chips. What vcore are you using by the way? I was able to get 3.25Ghz but that was with a vcore of 1.475 (which then increases to 1.52ish under load).
Vcore was still at 1.376v when I tested this. The attempt was strictly pushing the fsb to failure. It ran fine at 217, then failed at 220. The temperatures didn't seem to rise over previous peaks during the short attempt. I have been reading all the overclocking guides I can locate, and like I said, I'll start testing individual components to see where they fail, then back them off as the guides say.
I keep a notebook handy to keep track of the testing. I'll run this at 3.2ghz when its all done.
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Vcore was still at 1.376v when I tested this. The attempt was strictly pushing the fsb to failure. It ran fine at 217, then failed at 220. The temperatures didn't seem to rise over previous peaks during the short attempt. I have been reading all the overclocking guides I can locate, and like I said, I'll start testing individual components to see where they fail, then back them off as the guides say.
I keep a notebook handy to keep track of the testing. I'll run this at 3.2ghz when its all done.
I'm jealous. I wish my chip would OC But half of overclocking is luck so that's just the way it is.

If you have any questions about overclocking or even anything you come across in the guides, just let me know. I'm not sure which guides you've been reading, but if you check out my sig you will see a mini guide. In there are a few links to other guides as well.

Good luck mate, keep it up.
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Got my OC to stick! V core at 1.38 up to 1.41 under load. Temps from 30 to 38.
Ram set to 2.1 but seems to stay at 1.8 or 9
15 x 220 so 3.3 (I put 12 by mistake. Its locked at 15)
For some reason tighter ram timings makes my 3dmark go down?
Need to re do my WC loop I think. Its been untouched for about 4 months now
Edited by laurie - 10/18/08 at 10:38am
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Got my OC to stick! V core at 1.38 up to 1.41 under load. Temps from 30 to 38.
Ram set to 2.1 but seems to stay at 1.8 or 9
12x 220 so 3.3
For some reason tighter ram timings makes my 3dmark go down?
Need to re do my WC loop I think. Its been untouched for about 4 months now
Very nice! Congrats!

It's strange that tighter ram timings makes your score go down... the thing with 3dmark is that it isn't very consistent. You could run the test 10 times with the same settings and get 10 different scores. Timings don't usually make a huge difference in performance unless they are changed quite a bit.
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I have looked thru the guides you told me about, along with some on other sites.
They all say about the same, but after looking at the guides, and then the settings
available to me here, I do have some questions.
Here is what I have to work with:

System Clock: (214) 200-400
CPU Multiplier: (15) 5 to 15 in .5 steps
Vcore: (1.375) 0.800 to 1.675 in .0125 steps
Vdimm: (auto) auto, 1.978, 2.080, 2.155, 2.237, 2.313, 2.415, 2.490
1.2 HT voltage: (auto) auto, 1.309, 1.425, 1.525
NB Chip voltage: (auto) auto, 1.213, 1.313, 1.409
K8<>NB HT Speed: (1000) 200mhz to 2600mhz in 200mhz steps
HT Width: (auto) auto, 8, 16
Mem Clock Freq: (800) 533, 667, 800, 1066
PCI-E Clock: (100) 100 to 200

Most giudes say to drop the multiplier to 5 when finding the maximum system clock.
On the X-2 6000, that would require a clock setting of 600. My calculations say a
minimum multiplier of 7.5, which at 400 would give me the stock max speed of 3000.
Next is the HT multiplier. Its not 1 through 5, but is adjustable through a very
wide range. The rest of my settings are still on auto, Cool'N'Quiet is off.
So where do I go with this to get my 3.4ghz goal? I'm just confused at the
differences I see in the guides and my settings. She hit the 3.2ghz almost without
trying, and is still running at 41/27 C idle temps.
If you or anyone has suggestions as to settings, or knows more about the differences
in the settings I have available, then please let me know.

Thanks again for listening.
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I have looked thru the guides you told me about, along with some on other sites.
They all say about the same, but after looking at the guides, and then the settings
available to me here, I do have some questions.
Here is what I have to work with:

System Clock: (214) 200-400
CPU Multiplier: (15) 5 to 15 in .5 steps
Vcore: (1.375) 0.800 to 1.675 in .0125 steps
Vdimm: (auto) auto, 1.978, 2.080, 2.155, 2.237, 2.313, 2.415, 2.490
1.2 HT voltage: (auto) auto, 1.309, 1.425, 1.525
NB Chip voltage: (auto) auto, 1.213, 1.313, 1.409
K8<>NB HT Speed: (1000) 200mhz to 2600mhz in 200mhz steps
HT Width: (auto) auto, 8, 16
Mem Clock Freq: (800) 533, 667, 800, 1066
PCI-E Clock: (100) 100 to 200

Most giudes say to drop the multiplier to 5 when finding the maximum system clock.
On the X-2 6000, that would require a clock setting of 600. My calculations say a
minimum multiplier of 7.5, which at 400 would give me the stock max speed of 3000.
Next is the HT multiplier. Its not 1 through 5, but is adjustable through a very
wide range. The rest of my settings are still on auto, Cool'N'Quiet is off.
So where do I go with this to get my 3.4ghz goal? I'm just confused at the
differences I see in the guides and my settings. She hit the 3.2ghz almost without
trying, and is still running at 41/27 C idle temps.
If you or anyone has suggestions as to settings, or knows more about the differences
in the settings I have available, then please let me know.

Thanks again for listening.

Ok well to find your mobo's max "fsb" you'll want to lower your cpu and ram frequencies:


System Clock: (214) 200-400 --- start around 230 and work your way up

CPU Multiplier: (15) 5 to 15 in .5 steps --- start with 10 multi and lower accordingly to keep cpu around 2.5ghz (you want it slightly underclocked)

Vcore: (1.375) 0.800 to 1.675 in .0125 steps --- 1.4v, you want to give it enough to be sure it's stable and since stock is 1.375 or 1.4v this should be good with it underclocked.

Vdimm: (auto) auto, 1.978, 2.080, 2.155, 2.237, 2.313, 2.415, 2.490 --- whatever your ram is rated for... ddr2-800 is usually between 1.9v and 2.2v, check and set accordingly

1.2 HT voltage: (auto) auto, 1.309, 1.425, 1.525 --- the ht voltage should be fine on auto, especially while cpu is underclocked

NB Chip voltage: (auto) auto, 1.213, 1.313, 1.409 --- This is your NorthBridge chip voltage, not sure what stock voltage is or what safe values are. Since you are testing your mobo's "fsb" this is the voltage you would change to hopefully increase your mobo stability. Much like you would increase your vcore to increase cpu stability.

K8<>NB HT Speed: (1000) 200mhz to 2600mhz in 200mhz steps --- As you guessed this is your HT multiplier. Try to adjust this so that you keep your 1000 HT when changing your system clock. Remember that cpuz will show this value x2.

HT Width: (auto) auto, 8, 16 --- Keep this at 16, it allows the maximum bandwidth to and from your HT

Mem Clock Freq: (800) 533, 667, 800, 1066 --- You want to underclock your ram so choose 533. As your system clock increases your ram will also increase in speed and you want it to remain stable.

PCI-E Clock: (100) 100 to 200 --- Always keep this at 100.

Doing this will give you a good idea what is your max fsb to use. So when you OC your cpu you'll know not to go above the max fsb that you find. When I have more time later I can reply showing you how to do your cpu next and then finally your ram. Good luck

EDIT: Ok now you want to find your max cpu speed.

System Clock: (214) 200-400 --- increase this in steps of 2mhz

CPU Multiplier: (15) 5 to 15 in .5 steps --- put at 15

Vcore: (1.375) 0.800 to 1.675 in .0125 steps --- Start at 1.4v and increase system clock until unstable. When unstable, increase vcore. Don't go above 1.5v or 1.55v for an extreme OC with good cooling.

Vdimm: (auto) auto, 1.978, 2.080, 2.155, 2.237, 2.313, 2.415, 2.490 --- whatever your ram is rated for... ddr2-800 is usually between 1.9v and 2.2v, check and set accordingly

1.2 HT voltage: (auto) auto, 1.309, 1.425, 1.525 --- I'm not entirely sure what the best voltage is for this, I would leave it on auto.

NB Chip voltage: (auto) auto, 1.213, 1.313, 1.409 --- If in your mobo stability test above you found you needed to add voltage, leave it at whatever voltaged you needed for the corresponding system clock speed you've currently set.

K8<>NB HT Speed: (1000) 200mhz to 2600mhz in 200mhz steps --- Try to adjust this so that you keep your 1000 HT when changing your system clock. Remember that cpuz will show this value x2.

HT Width: (auto) auto, 8, 16 --- Keep this at 16, it allows the maximum bandwidth to and from your HT

Mem Clock Freq: (800) 533, 667, 800, 1066 --- You want to underclock your ram so choose 533. As your system clock increases your ram will also increase in speed and you want it to remain stable.

PCI-E Clock: (100) 100 to 200 --- Always keep this at 100.

Ok now for your ram.

System Clock: (214) 200-400 --- leave at your highest stable system clock in your cpu stability testing above.

CPU Multiplier: (15) 5 to 15 in .5 steps --- start with 15, if your ram can handle your overclock with x15, drop your multi here to x14 and increase the system clock to a value that gives you the same cpu speed as tested above. If this requires a system clock higher than your mobo can handle from test 1, leave at x15.

Vcore: (1.375) 0.800 to 1.675 in .0125 steps --- Leave this at whichever voltage you need for your max cpu speed.

Vdimm: (auto) auto, 1.978, 2.080, 2.155, 2.237, 2.313, 2.415, 2.490 --- whatever your ram is rated for... ddr2-800 is usually between 1.9v and 2.2v, check and set accordingly

1.2 HT voltage: (auto) auto, 1.309, 1.425, 1.525 --- the ht voltage should be fine on auto

NB Chip voltage: (auto) auto, 1.213, 1.313, 1.409 --- If in your mobo stability test above you found you needed to add voltage, leave it at whatever voltaged you needed for the corresponding system clock speed you've currently set.

K8<>NB HT Speed: (1000) 200mhz to 2600mhz in 200mhz steps --- As you guessed this is your HT multiplier. Try to adjust this so that you keep your 1000 HT when changing your system clock. Remember that cpuz will show this value x2.

HT Width: (auto) auto, 8, 16 --- Keep this at 16, it allows the maximum bandwidth to and from your HT

Mem Clock Freq: (800) 533, 667, 800, 1066 --- Start with 533 and a x15 cpu multi. Then try 667 with x15, 800 with x15, 1066 with x15. If your ram can handle all of these, drop your cpu multi to x14 and change the system clock to get the same speed as your max cpu speed. Start with 533 x14, 667 with x14 etc.

PCI-E Clock: (100) 100 to 200 --- Always keep this at 100.

Hopefully that all makes sense. If you have any more questions just ask
Edited by WBaS - 10/20/08 at 3:52pm
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I have a 6000. Got it today. Good results so far. Using stock fan and the CPU, according to PCWizard 2008, is at 38°C.
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I have a 6000. Got it today. Good results so far. Using stock fan and the CPU, according to PCWizard 2008, is at 38°C.
Welcome to OCN and our club! Try checking your temps with CoreTemp, it might be more accurate. I'm not sure if PCWizard uses a temperature sensor on the die like CoreTemp does.
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Welcome to OCN and our club! Try checking your temps with CoreTemp, it might be more accurate. I'm not sure if PCWizard uses a temperature sensor on the die like CoreTemp does.
CoreTemp only shows the core temperatures and not the cpu temperature. The temperatures I get from CoreTemp:

Core 1#: 12
Core 2#: 17

I love the pipes twirling out of the heatsink. One of them look like an exhaust lol
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