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From what I've heard/read, the Arctic Freezer 64 Pro is supposed to be great for dual cores (on par with a Zalman 9500), but isn't too great for quad cores. I could be wrong, though, since everyone's system varies.
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Wow, 216 bus on stock voltage? I don't think I can get close to that on stock.

I actually ran Orthos CPU only test, and it only ran for 4 1/2 hours at 3.41. I know you guys say that 8 hours is the officially stable point...so I might need to tone things down a bit. =/

Currently, here's are my settings:
HT bus: 220
Multiplier: 15.5x
Vcore: 1.467 (my mobo goes 1.4, 1.425, 1.467...)
RAM: 733 (from 667)
RAM voltage: 1.95 (from 1.8)
Timing: 5-5-5-15 (from 4-4-4-12)

Any idea how I can improve things to keep my CPU at 3.41? Also, why does it need to be 8 hours? I never use my computer 8 hours in a row (not counting leaving it idle/screensaver), let alone stress my CPU 100% for that long.

P.S. I don't think it's a RAM issue because Memtest passed fine. If anything, I'm going to see if it's stable at lower voltage: 1.9.
The 8 hours is somewhat arbitrary. The longer it runs, the more sure you can be that it's stable. Supposedly the program OCCT can run for less time to test for the same level of stability. I'm not sure how true this is, but I do prefer OCCT myself.

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Good call on the Blend test. I ran the Small FFT last night and rather than Orthos failing, the machine rebooted during the 14K. I raised vCore to 1.425 and it's gone far beyond that, currently 3 hrs. Temps are holding fine at 45-46C. I have been looking at the Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro. Reviews are stellar! Price is so good, I wonder if it could actually be that much better than the stock. What do you think?

Memory timings are currently at 5-5-5-15-25-2T. ( I should have gotten the 4-4-4-12 version of this memory) How would you suggest I loosen them? Should I go directly to 6-6-6-18, etc or should I change one at a time like going 5-5-?-??-??-?T? Where would you set them to start?
I think I will try the timings and test, then try a small volt bump as LoGGi! suggested and test.

Thanks for all the help! This forum is great!
Most of those reviews are fairly old. Since the Freezer Pro came out there have been a few coolers that I think are better and at a reasonable price. I'm mainly talking about the HDT (Heatpipe Direct Touch) coolers such as the Xigmatek HDT-S1283 and OCZ Vendetta 2. Those coolers can be found for around $35-$40 and perform on par with the Thermalright Ultras which are sold for $50+ without fans included. Just to give you an idea, I was testing 1.55v at about 3.5Ghz and my Xigmatek was keeping temps below 55C. It's pretty impressive. The 6000+ was not impressive however, my chip is surprisingly unwilling to OC lol.

For the memory, just increase the timings to 6-6-6-18 while testing for max cpu speed to be sure it's not your memory. Once you're happy with your cpu clock then you can try to optimize your timings and RAM voltage.
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For the memory, just increase the timings to 6-6-6-18 while testing for max cpu speed to be sure it's not your memory. Once you're happy with your cpu clock then you can try to optimize your timings and RAM voltage.
Do you think that the CPU speed is the single biggest factor in the apparent speed of the computer or is there a point where it's better to have a little lower clock on the CPU in order to have tighter memory timings? In other words, will the drop in performance to 6-6-6-18 counteract the increase in CPU speed? How about compared to dropping the memory setting to 667? How important are the other memory timings? There are a lot of other timing settings that can be changed in my BIOS.
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Do you think that the CPU speed is the single biggest factor in the apparent speed of the computer or is there a point where it's better to have a little lower clock on the CPU in order to have tighter memory timings? In other words, will the drop in performance to 6-6-6-18 counteract the increase in CPU speed? How about compared to dropping the memory setting to 667? How important are the other memory timings? There are a lot of other timing settings that can be changed in my BIOS.
It really depends a lot on the individual system. Usually people prioritize as follows: CPU>RAM Freq>RAM Timings. That being said, people usually find their max cpu speed, then ram, then timings. If you look at the mini guide in my sig you may get a better idea of how to do it.
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Supposedly the program OCCT can run for less time to test for the same level of stability. I'm not sure how true this is, but I do prefer OCCT myself.
I'm giving OCCT a try. It's showing my temps quite a bit hotter than Orthos. Which one is more accurate? Any tips on running OCCT to test?
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I'm giving OCCT a try. It's showing my temps quite a bit hotter than Orthos. Which one is more accurate? Any tips on running OCCT to test?
They both use the same sensors so they should be fairly close. When you're running OCCT try using coretemp too and compare. To test for maximum stability you can put it on a custom test with a higher priority and make sure that cpu is selected on the main screen. The higher priority will speed up your testing, but it will also make your computer less usable when it's running so it's up to you. I've found OCCT to be accurate for temp read outs.
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When you're running OCCT try using coretemp too and compare.
I did that.one core was reading the same and the other one OCCT was reporting 10C warmer than Core Temp.
Strange.
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Sorry guys!I bailed.

Babydoll's laying on the floor raped and abused.I took her cards and her psu.I'm sorry!
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Sorry guys!I bailed.

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I did that.one core was reading the same and the other one OCCT was reporting 10C warmer than Core Temp.
Strange.
Problem fixed. "When all else fails, read directions." OCCT was showing me one core and the CPU temp instead of the other core. Changed settings appropriately and now it matches Core Temp. Anyone know why the CPU temp reading is about 10C hotter than the warmest core? (actually, maybe I know) Is it that the CPU reading comes from the sensor under the CPU, in the socket, which is not in contact with the heatsink?
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