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Dam I really want a mill now! I have a drill press but theirs no way I would bother trying to mill on it.
I used a drill press, but I did not do any "milling" I only used plunge cuts
first I used a 1/2" drill bit to make multiple blind holes and then blended them all together with a 1/2" mill bit, if you used a center less mill bit you would not even need to use a drill bit.
Basically I just used the mill bit to make the floor flat

I will probably not have this in for a couple of weeks, I am waiting for Petra's to get the Evga water blocks back in stock for my GPU
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very nice mate! have you tested it yet?

also, + for great work!
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Not yet, I am currantly collecting piece's for a gaming PC for my grandchildern.

Right now I have my sig rig(Pa's game box) Nana's HP that I have maxed out and their parents old compaq with an AMD athlon 2400+ and 512 PC2100

the boys like to play BF2142 in Titan mode and Nana's PC slows to a crawl in the Titan corridors, the compaq is hopeless.

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Got an Evga water block for my 285
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oh ok!
compaq is useless lol

hmm, I really wonder how the evga blocks are, do they make them themself or do they let some others do that? Also tell me how the temp difference is!
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Got the rest of my metal stock and delrin in a couple days ago





It's:

1x copper bar- .375"x4"x12"
1x copper bar- .125"x4"x12"
2x copper bar .125"x2"x12"
3x Aluminum plate .5" (I think) x6"x12"
2x Black Acetal plate .375"x12"x12"

I think .375" is too thick for doing a base plate depending on design. Probably shoulda got .25" or .1875" for the base. The .125" I got to use as an inbetween top. I might try doing a copper base with the .375", then an intermediate top with the .125" copper and then a top that does not contact any water using the .5" aluminum with fins milled in for air cooling as well. Or just do copper bottem, delrin top. I will however go ahead and make the aluminum top...because compared to the copper, aluminum is cheap and I need practice.

Was into doing this a while back, you may remmeber my post or not. But got deployed for a while and fell out of it. Just now getting back into it and will probably cut the block on the band saw on monday and maybe start milling on tuesday.

I plan on making a CPU/NB block. I don't have any fancy renderings or pictures of the plan or even drawings lol. I am basically taking an EK supreme LT block and will cut the stock to be like that shape except the bottem will extend out to also cover the NB.....which is real close on this mobo



I am assuming that portion will be simple and easy. The milling part, not so much. Gonna have to mill down the bottem of th cpU base area to match height with the northbridge since the CPU sits a little higher. Probably just gonna keep shaving it down till it sits good on cpu and northbridge. Flatness? I'll be happy if the block just doesn't leak water when I am done lol

Have a vertical mill at work, no one knows how to use it. It is a mystery why we even have it as it is never used, but lucky for me, we have it. As well as alot of end mills, various clamping devices, arbors and stuff I don't have names for. There is even some kinda circular spining table that I assume will allow me to mill a curving line or circle. Still waiting on six 3/32 end mill to get to me. Planing on using those to mill the internals.

Couple questions:

What speeds for milling copper? (fast, medium, slow...1 to 10)
How deep to mill channels for the usual diameter o-rings? Just half the diameter?..less then half?

Also, I ordered some M2.5 screws from mcmasters, except I forgot to get taps for it. Would Home Depot, Lowes and other places like that carry metric taps that small?
Edited by Herc130 - 6/13/09 at 8:18pm
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Got the rest of my metal stock and delrin in a couple days ago

It's:

1x copper bar- .375"x4"x12"
1x copper bar- .125"x4"x12"
2x copper bar .125"x2"x12"
3x Aluminum plate .5" (I think) x6"x12"
2x Black Acetal plate .375"x12"x12"

I think .375" is too thick for doing a base plate depending on design. Probably shoulda got .25" or .1875" for the base. The .125" I got to use as an inbetween top. I might try doing a copper base with the .375", then an intermediate top with the .125" copper and then a top that does not contact any water using the .5" aluminum with fins milled in for air cooling as well. Or just do copper bottem, delrin top. I will however go ahead and make the aluminum top...because compared to the copper, aluminum is cheap and I need practice.

Was into doing this a while back, you may remmeber my post or not. But got deployed for a while and fell out of it. Just now getting back into it and will probably cut the block on the band saw on monday and maybe start milling on tuesday.

I plan on making a CPU/NB block. I don't have any fancy renderings or pictures of the plan or even drawings lol. I am basically taking an EK supreme LT block and will cut the stock to be like that shape except the bottem will extend out to also cover the NB.....which is real close on this mobo

I am assuming that portion will be simple and easy. The milling part, not so much. Gonna have to mill down the bottem of th cpU base area to match height with the northbridge since the CPU sits a little higher. Probably just gonna keep shaving it down till it sits good on cpu and northbridge. Flatness? I'll be happy if the block just doesn't leak water when I am done lol

Have a vertical mill at work, no one knows how to use it. It is a mystery why we even have it as it is never used, but lucky for me, we have it. As well as alot of end mills, various clamping devices, arbors and stuff I don't have names for. There is even some kinda circular spining table that I assume will allow me to mill a curving line or circle. Still waiting on six 3/32 end mill to get to me. Planing on using those to mill the internals.

Couple questions:

What speeds for milling copper? (fast, medium, slow...1 to 10)
How deep to mill channels for the usual diameter o-rings? Just half the diameter?..less then half?

Also, I ordered some M2.5 screws from mcmasters, except I forgot to get taps for it. Would Home Depot, Lowes and other places like that carry metric taps that small?
One thing about the 3/8" copper if your milling it down slow you can always change it on the fly if you see a better way to pin or channel it or whatever.

Hey a finned top would be pretty slick, I always wanted one, kind of makes them look like valve covers or just more industrial.

I don't remember what milling speed you would need to run it at, I want to say slow since copper is gummy but I can't for sure, you need to use cutting oil also. I'd PM fstfrddy here he could tell you how fast or slow to go, he could help line you up on the best end mills to use to. The o-rings I'd say around half way.

Some hardware stores here carry metric tap's and dies, Sears might be a good place to look to.

Look forward to seeing your blocks, that was great luck having a mill to use at work!
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I want to apologize, SlickWilly, if I offended you in anyway. I have nothing but respect for anyone making their own block....since I know little about metalwork/machining I assumed you were moving the copper against the cutter in the drillpress (side force)...and after you posted about drilling it out I realized how my comment may have come across...

About the query: How much to mill out for an O-ring...

I remember Iandh fussing about getting the O-ring milling just right. I think you will have to make some fine adjustments as you discover how much the particular ring compresses.

I remember Cathar (Stew) posting about how the prototyping for the Storm and final product varied because the machinists assumed his numbers were wrong and made the grooves too deep...apparently in his design the Oring in the Storm needs to be compressed a certain amount..so half would be too much to mill out.

From my woodworking experience I usually cut or route less than I need and move my way up to it until I get the fit I require...

Looking forward to seeing that metal turned into waterblocks
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Got the rest of my metal stock and delrin in a couple days ago





It's:

1x copper bar- .375"x4"x12"
1x copper bar- .125"x4"x12"
2x copper bar .125"x2"x12"
3x Aluminum plate .5" (I think) x6"x12"
2x Black Acetal plate .375"x12"x12"

I think .375" is too thick for doing a base plate depending on design. Probably shoulda got .25" or .1875" for the base. The .125" I got to use as an inbetween top. I might try doing a copper base with the .375", then an intermediate top with the .125" copper and then a top that does not contact any water using the .5" aluminum with fins milled in for air cooling as well. Or just do copper bottem, delrin top. I will however go ahead and make the aluminum top...because compared to the copper, aluminum is cheap and I need practice.

Was into doing this a while back, you may remmeber my post or not. But got deployed for a while and fell out of it. Just now getting back into it and will probably cut the block on the band saw on monday and maybe start milling on tuesday.

I plan on making a CPU/NB block. I don't have any fancy renderings or pictures of the plan or even drawings lol. I am basically taking an EK supreme LT block and will cut the stock to be like that shape except the bottem will extend out to also cover the NB.....which is real close on this mobo



I am assuming that portion will be simple and easy. The milling part, not so much. Gonna have to mill down the bottem of th cpU base area to match height with the northbridge since the CPU sits a little higher. Probably just gonna keep shaving it down till it sits good on cpu and northbridge. Flatness? I'll be happy if the block just doesn't leak water when I am done lol

Have a vertical mill at work, no one knows how to use it. It is a mystery why we even have it as it is never used, but lucky for me, we have it. As well as alot of end mills, various clamping devices, arbors and stuff I don't have names for. There is even some kinda circular spining table that I assume will allow me to mill a curving line or circle. Still waiting on six 3/32 end mill to get to me. Planing on using those to mill the internals.

Couple questions:

What speeds for milling copper? (fast, medium, slow...1 to 10)
How deep to mill channels for the usual diameter o-rings? Just half the diameter?..less then half?

Also, I ordered some M2.5 screws from mcmasters, except I forgot to get taps for it. Would Home Depot, Lowes and other places like that carry metric taps that small?
I run about 800RPM and cut .025 at a time but this is with the small X2. An industrial mill can handle more I am sure but small cuts are better. Try to get "Rapid-Kut" end mills they are without a doubt the sharpest mills going and put Niagara to shame. I cant help with the :"O" rings, I have yet to tackle that myself, IMO you absolutely need CNC to do it. You will not find the taps you need at lowes or the Depot and the ones they do have are junk IMO, get them from McMaster. Also when tapping copper (screw holes) you may want to increase the drill size just a bit. Copper is sticky and the taps tend to lock up. I threw away a few blocks in the beginning due to broken taps.
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holy ***** fred, thats awesome
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