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Will the rev. 2.0 version of this board post with a Wolfdale and no bios update first? straight out of the box? Or do I need to flash the bios first, somehow?
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Originally Posted by Ralph Louie View Post
Will the rev. 2.0 version of this board post with a Wolfdale and no bios update first? straight out of the box? Or do I need to flash the bios first, somehow?
I'm awaiting this combo, to recieve it in the mail Wed.
I read the manual, Rev. 2 should post but will require a bios flash (can be easily done in bios <enter key> (Q-flash) with a floppy drive, or Memory stick.

Many report the 8400's run out of the box.
First boot, hit bios up.

Read the mobo manual (Newegg>product>manufacturer page>download manual>bios flash on pg. 62)

I'll report when I build mine tomorrow.
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i got a E6550 with this board and Crucial Ballistix 2gb ram.

this is my first time overclocking and i've gotten it up to 2.8.

any way i can get that up to 3.0 or higher?

also im noticing that my speeds go down to 2.4 when idle and 2.8 when in load. whats up with that?

im getting these readings with CPUz.
That chip's multiplier is 7x, yes? Sounds like you have EIST enabled. Go into Advanced BIOS Features and disable CPU EIST Function.

Looks to me that what's happening is when idle, EIST is kicking in and lowering your multiplier to x6. This is simply a power saving feature and won't hurt anything, although I have read it can interfere with your OC.
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Originally Posted by bioniccrackmonk View Post
Thanks for the reply. I am not sure what "bug" everyone is referring to, but I am checking my temps with the EasyTune Pro 5 and it says my CPU idle is 17/18C and I really haven't checked it under load yet. Is anyone using different software for monitoring temps? If so, any recommendations are greatly appreciated.
I don't use EasyTune Pro 5. When I am in bios, it says my CPU temperature is 16C and motherboard is 30C. When I am in Windows, I use CoreTemp and Everest, both program show my CPU is core#0-41/core#1-36C and motherboard is 30C. This is pretty silly. I am wondering if it is Windows problem. My q6600 with 1.6vcore with the same setup idles at 18-20C, I don't really see why my E8400 @ 1.31 vcore is twice as hot as the Q6600 :|

Just took some temperature reading straight from bios. It seems more reasonable than coretemp and everest. I suspect EasyTune 5 takes the temperature reading straight from bios.
3.0G stock speed @ 8C
4.5G @ 16C
The temperature is 100% increase but it is still pretty cool.


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Originally Posted by lenzo View Post
I'm awaiting this combo, to recieve it in the mail Wed.
I read the manual, Rev. 2 should post but will require a bios flash (can be easily done in bios <enter key> (Q-flash) with a floppy drive, or Memory stick.

Many report the 8400's run out of the box.
First boot, hit bios up.

Read the mobo manual (Newegg>product>manufacturer page>download manual>bios flash on pg. 62)

I'll report when I build mine tomorrow.
Cool thanks for the heads up I will have to RTFM. I ordered a corsair flash drive with my components but no floppy drive :S I hope that doesn't come to bite me later. I will check the giga website now and DL the latest bios update just to be ready
I have a bunch of stuff on it's way from new egg right now, but my mobo from clubit and proc from mwave I have yet to get shipment notification on ordered sunday morning...
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I don't use EasyTune Pro 5. When I am in bios, it says my CPU temperature is 16C and motherboard is 30C. When I am in Windows, I use CoreTemp and Everest, both program show my CPU is core#0-41/core#1-36C and motherboard is 30C. This is pretty silly. I am wondering if it is Windows problem. My q6600 with 1.6vcore with the same setup idles at 18-20C, I don't really see why my E8400 @ 1.31 vcore is twice as hot as the Q6600 :|

Just took some temperature reading straight from bios. It seems more reasonable than coretemp and everest. I suspect EasyTune 5 takes the temperature reading straight from bios.
3.0G stock speed @ 8C
4.5G @ 16C
The temperature is 100% increase but it is still pretty cool.
I tested out CoreTemp last night and I don't feel it is right either, so here is what I did to try and see which is more accurate. First I checked the temps in bios immediately after turning on my computer when it was off for more then several hours, basically when I got home from work. Then, I ran Prime95 stress test for about an hour to get the temps up and notated the temps using Easytune and Core Temp, one being about 12 degrees off from the other. I then immediately reset the computer and jumped into the bios to see what it said there. Now obviously it went down a little bit since it was no longer under max load, but I can say that one of the temp programs was a lot closer then the other one, provided that the bios reading is the most accurate one. you probably already guessed that Easytune was the one that seemed to fit the most which makes me think it does take its reading from the bios, especially since it is a Giga-byte program included with their motherboard.

After this, I started researching the cooler I have and stumbled across Anadtech's review which tests this very cooler with a 6800 extreme, and now I am starting to see the clear picture.

Link: http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=3202&p=4

I keep my fan set on medium speeds with my 45nm E8400, which obviously puts out less heat then the 6800 extreme. Looking at their graph, they have their processor at Idle with temps of 25C low fan and 23C high fan. My Idle is about 17/18C, according to Easytune, which I feel is right since my processor is on a smaller scale. Then I looked at their load temps; the 6800 extreme has 39C low fan speed and 36C high fan speed. My processor after the hour stress test using Easytune was 32C and 45C using CoreTemp.

Although these are different processors, it is the same exact cooler, so armed with this info I would have to call shenanigans on the CoreTemp program, at least for the E8400 processors. It would seem that the Easytune takes its temps from the bios directly and unless the bios reading is wrong, then these are the accurate temps.

Side note: "When I am in bios, it says my CPU temperature is 16C and motherboard is 30C", my temps are almost exactly the same when in the bios as well. we have the same motherboard and processor so I think the bios is right. Also, I have not overclocked my system yet, these are stock temps. Your CPU is water cooled and mine is air cooled, so I would expect mine to be higher then yours, but not CoreTemp high.
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So I guess these processors DO run cool It really made me feel uncomfortable when I first saw these 45nm run more than twice as hot as my 65nm quad at idle... Hope they come up with a new program that can read the correct temp soon.
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ok i have a questoin, i have the opportunity to get 8gb ram, 4 x 2gb of mushkin ddr2 800. should i got for it? or should i just get 4 gb (if i get 8gb id then get vista x64). i need some help with this decision
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ok i have a questoin, i have the opportunity to get 8gb ram, 4 x 2gb of mushkin ddr2 800. should i got for it? or should i just get 4 gb (if i get 8gb id then get vista x64). i need some help with this decision
I'd question whether or not you need 8 GB of RAM. Do you do anything with your rig that would require it? I honestly can't see any reason to have more than 4 GB unless you're doing some really massive encoding work.
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