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Question: I'm sure someone's done this, but I'm running XP Pro 64 on this thing and get BSOD's when I use both sticks of Mushkin 2GB DDR2 800 Dual-Channel. I'm using one stick right now in channel 0 and am running fine, but I want to update my BIOS and try running both in Dual-Channel. My problem is probably obvious to you folks: the BIOS update on Gigabyte's website does not run in XP Pro 64. How can I perform a BIOS update on a 64-bit OS? I tried searching this thread but no dice.
I was unsure whether you have 2gb or 4gb total by your post, plus you don't have your system specs filled out.

If you are running 4gb of memory, there is a patch for vista x64 in order to work with 4gb. I can't find the patch right now, but I know there is one to prevent BSODs when running 4gb ram with vista x64.

Edit: Found the thread about the patch.
http://www.overclock.net/intel-memor...vista-fix.html
Edited by PGT96AJT - 6/23/08 at 11:17am
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I had my CPU running at 350x8 (2.8) for a while with some rock stable RAM timings of 4-4-4-12 (@700MHz).

When I decided to boost the FSB to 375 (3.0GHz), my RAM (now @750MHz) would only run at 5-5-4-12. I tried upping the RAM voltage one notch to get 4-5-5-18 or 5-4-5-18, but those first two below 5 just wouldn't boot windows (or crash during).

Specified timings are 5-5-5-18 @ 800MHz. Should I up the RAM voltage some more and see if that helps? Kinda wary about it. RAM is cheap.. but was error-free at 700MHz + 4-4-4-12.
Edited by Pasta - 6/23/08 at 8:30pm
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I had my CPU running at 350x8 (2.8) for a while with some rock stable RAM timings of 4-4-4-12 (@700MHz).

When I decided to boost the FSB to 375 (3.0GHz), my RAM (now @750MHz) would only run at 5-5-4-12. I tried upping the RAM voltage one notch to get 4-5-5-18 or 5-4-5-18, but those first two below 5 just wouldn't boot windows (or crash during).

Specified timings are 5-5-5-18 @ 800MHz. Should I up the RAM voltage some more and see if that helps? Kinda wary about it. RAM is cheap.. but was error-free at 700MHz + 4-4-4-12.
I'm no RAM person, but try 4-5-5-15 or try 5-5-5-15 with 2.1-2.2v. First get your 3Ghz OC stable no matter what then work on the RAM timings. I read somewhere that Corsair's warranty is good for up to 2.2v. IIRC, DDR2 RAM can take around 2.1v to 2.2v and still be in the safe zone.
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Hi everyone. New here. Just wanted to say hey. Just bought the system in profile. Looking to see what I can get out of her.

Couple questions:


Is it true what I hear about OCing 4 x 1Gb sticks? Better to use 2 sticks?


Anyone have any experience with my MoBo/PSU/Case? PSU cables going to reach from bottom of Antec 300?


Everyone lapping HSF and/or CPU?


430w PSU from Antec going to cut it?


Let me know before I start building it.

Thanks everyone.
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Hi everyone. New here. Just wanted to say hey. Just bought the system in profile. Looking to see what I can get out of her.

Couple questions:


Is it true what I hear about OCing 4 x 1Gb sticks? Better to use 2 sticks?


Anyone have any experience with my MoBo/PSU/Case? PSU cables going to reach from bottom of Antec 300?


Everyone lapping HSF and/or CPU?


430w PSU from Antec going to cut it?


Let me know before I start building it.

Thanks everyone.
In some cases, using 2x2 sticks is better than using 4x1 sticks. I think it puts a bit more strain on the NB, I'm not exactly sure.

If you already bought the system then your going to find out if the cables reach or not on your own. This mostly depends on the PSU though.

Lapping generally helps temps by 5C at least when you lap both CPU and heatsink. If you don't want to lap your CPU and void the warranty (it's voided if you OC anways) and lap the heatsink, then it's going to either make temps better slightly, a lot if one is convex and the other is concave somehow, or worse by a little bit.

The PSU looks fine since the 8600GT doesn't suck up as much power as the higher end cards.
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In some cases, using 2x2 sticks is better than using 4x1 sticks. I think it puts a bit more strain on the NB, I'm not exactly sure.
Yeah, I couldn't turn down the deal on the RAM. (4 x 1GB <$40). I'll keep an eye on the NB. Good lookin out.


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Lapping generally helps temps by 5C at least when you lap both CPU and heatsink. If you don't want to lap your CPU and void the warranty (it's voided if you OC anways) and lap the heatsink, then it's going to either make temps better slightly, a lot if one is convex and the other is concave somehow, or worse by a little bit.
I already checked out my TT120. It could certainly use a lap job. I just wanted to see if everyone else was doing the same, so I can gauge comparisons. I'll certainly lap CPU and HSF.



With 4 x Scythe KAZE-JYUNIs (~110 CFM) turning my Antec 300 into a wind tunnel, I expect decent temps. Really hopin for 3.6GHz




Thanks for the reply. I'm going to run benchmarks pre-lap, post lap, pre-OC, post OC, etc etc. I'll let everyone know how it all turns out.
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Yeah, I couldn't turn down the deal on the RAM. (4 x 1GB <$40). I'll keep an eye on the NB. Good lookin out.




I already checked out my TT120. It could certainly use a lap job. I just wanted to see if everyone else was doing the same, so I can gauge comparisons. I'll certainly lap CPU and HSF.



With 4 x Scythe KAZE-JYUNIs (~110 CFM) turning my Antec 300 into a wind tunnel, I expect decent temps. Really hopin for 3.6GHz




Thanks for the reply. I'm going to run benchmarks pre-lap, post lap, pre-OC, post OC, etc etc. I'll let everyone know how it all turns out.
Good luck on your lapping. Four of those fans are overkill since after a certain point, adding more fans will do nothing for your temps. How do you live with the noise!? I have two and can barely stand them. For my next build, I'll be getting the 24db slipstreams or the 33db ones.
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Good luck on your lapping. Four of those fans are overkill since after a certain point, adding more fans will do nothing for your temps. How do you live with the noise!? I have two and can barely stand them. For my next build, I'll be getting the 24db slipstreams or the 33db ones.
Again, I couldn't turn down the deal. They were $7/ea. I originally was just looking for something decent to put on my TT120. I came across these puppies and read some good things about them so I grabbed 1 for the TT120, 2 for the intake on the front of my 300 and 1 for the side door vent over my PCIs. I got them all hooked up to a cheap controller (Sunbeam RHK-BA <$15), so when I'm not under full load I can spin them down. Even under full load though, I usually have headphones on. I am more into performance than noise or cosmetics or anything else.


I hear good things about the slipstreams.
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I had my CPU running at 350x8 (2.8) for a while with some rock stable RAM timings of 4-4-4-12 (@700MHz).

When I decided to boost the FSB to 375 (3.0GHz), my RAM (now @750MHz) would only run at 5-5-4-12. I tried upping the RAM voltage one notch to get 4-5-5-18 or 5-4-5-18, but those first two below 5 just wouldn't boot windows (or crash during).

Specified timings are 5-5-5-18 @ 800MHz. Should I up the RAM voltage some more and see if that helps? Kinda wary about it. RAM is cheap.. but was error-free at 700MHz + 4-4-4-12.
check with memtest86+, that keeps windows from being in jeopardy. The MB/s can show if or how much timings help your speed. you didn't mention if you are running 3T or 2T cmd rate, I found that to make the biggest difference.

you can tweak fsb/divider/timings/ voltage for memory and boot right back to memtest quick. if you get no errors you can move on to cpu and smack it around 'till it's stable. I would go 10pass minimum in memtest after you get all you think you can or want out of memory. If you get errors at 700MHz or if you have to go way over rated volt Vddr at 800MHz you may have a bad stick. pull or test them individually to isolate. I don't know about yours but .1 or .2 Vddr ABOVE mfr rating should be reasonably safe and get you to either the tight timings and/or higher MHz you want. 1 crappy stick will halt all of that and memtest is an easy way to check.

Also use hwmonitor or something to check actual Vddr, this board runs a little low. corsair calls for 1.9V on your ram, you may have to set 2.0V just to get above 1.9 due to droop (you could see something like 1.92-1.98 in hwmonitor). If it actually runs at 1.86 or something tight timing will probably produce errors (and crashing).
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Hello guys, i just put together a pc last week with this Motherboard..

System specs is this

Antec Twelve Hundred Tower

Socket 775LGA Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L

750 GB Samsung 7200rpm SATA2 32MB

750 Watt Corsair TX Strømforsyning Link

OCZ 2x 2048 MB Dual Ram DDR II 8000 SDRAM

(775 Pin) Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3GHz

GeForce 9800GTX

First off all, i would like to know what speeds i could safely clock my 9800GTX to on this Motherboard.. Which is easy cause you can do it in windows with Rivaturner..

But id like to clock my Cpu too, not much but a little.. To like 3.4 - 3.6ghz, not more since it's running on stock cooler and Air.. But how to do this, kinda lost in Bios and how to use it? A overclock program called C.I.A.2 does follow this MB, but it gives me warnings when i change to modes like Cruise.. "something about volts not being right"

Im totally Green on this Area please help me

"(sorry for my bad english im from Denmark)"
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