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bump the cpu thats your problem for sure. dont be scared to give it a boost

I ran my 2180 all the way to 3.0 with stock volts. I had to bump up quite a bit to do 3.2 it was unreal i couldnt belive it but that was it. I think im at 1.41 idle
    
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Did you say you were using the F8f BIOS? If not, that is the most recent one. I am not sure if there is a better one. But that is what I am using. You may want to update that.
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bump the cpu thats your problem for sure. dont be scared to give it a boost

I ran my 2180 all the way to 3.0 with stock volts. I had to bump up quite a bit to do 3.2 it was unreal i couldnt belive it but that was it. I think im at 1.41 idle
Different chip of course, but I am at 1.456v idle (367x9)
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I also have a kit of OCZ Platinum. Same specs, except they are rated at 2.1v instead of 2.2v like the ballistix. My Ballistix only have 1 row of lights on top. I testest them when I first started, before I pushed the CPU.


I got the Ballistix up to 1020Mhz with really loose timings.



Do you think I should try the OCZ?




I have plans to both lap my TT120+CPU and also pencil mod my board. But, I wanted to see what I could get it to before those mods so I can compare. Right now I am not even using AS5, I have the TT paste on it.

I want to see how far I can get when I am pencil'd, lapped and AS5'd.



First I am going to lap, and check improvements, then I am going to pencil and see how much further I get. With any luck I should be able to get to 3.6.




Let me know what you think.
I would recommend that you use the OCZ RAM for OCing since that probably wont die on you anytime soon. Crucial has been really shotty lately with it's products, great service though. Some people have had to chain RMA products that have been dieing on them over and over.

Just lap and mod away before you OC, it saves time. I don't really see the point of comparing before and after, but do what you want.

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Use small FFTs and check if the NB is hot. If it is, you can strap a 40mm fan on top of it. I say this often because they run hot/very warm.

You still have a lot of headroom for Vcore, you don't have to keep it that low. With small FFTs, you might hit 60C though.

You should go out and grab a Xigmatek cooler, the one with 3 direct pipes touching the cpu (get the Vendetta 2 if you'd like, they're both the same and perform almost as good as the TRUE). I don't like ASUS coolers, they just don't seem to work well.
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I would recommend that you use the OCZ RAM for OCing since that probably wont die on you anytime soon. Crucial has been really shotty lately with it's products, great service though. Some people have had to chain RMA products that have been dieing on them over and over.
Yeah, I will probably throw the OCZ in when I start workin the RAM.


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Just lap and mod away before you OC, it saves time. I don't really see the point of comparing before and after, but do what you want.


I have the time and energy, and I am curious to see exactly how much each mod helps.


Right now I am rock solid at 3.30GHz


I'll try bumping it up a little, but I don't think I am going to make it far. My core temps are already at 60c under small FFT.



We'll see if pencil and lapping can bring that down some, so maybe I can reach 3.40GHZ. I don't imagine I will get much further than that. Not without going past 1.5v anyway.










Eagle, how you doing?
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I took forever to figure out the whole calibration thing on Speed fan but i think I have it. Im using the same settings as before with the exception of increased CPU voltage to around 1.32V (Didnt write down the exact#) and I lowered the fsb to 370. I have been able to run prime without immediately crashing the computer so far but the temperatures are right at @ 59C.

Just as I am typing this, my worker thread #2 has stopped due to a rounding error. So im not sure what that means.

Also, according to Core temp, my VID is 1.2750V. Again im not quite sure what that tells me, but I know that this is the same value for the default vcore in the bios.

Anyway, suggestions are welcome and I may be needing to pickup a better cooler . Thanks for all the help so far though!
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I took forever to figure out the whole calibration thing on Speed fan but i think I have it. Im using the same settings as before with the exception of increased CPU voltage to around 1.32V (Didnt write down the exact#) and I lowered the fsb to 370. I have been able to run prime without immediately crashing the computer so far but the temperatures are right at @ 59C.

Just as I am typing this, my worker thread #2 has stopped due to a rounding error. So im not sure what that means.

Also, according to Core temp, my VID is 1.2750V. Again im not quite sure what that tells me, but I know that this is the same value for the default vcore in the bios.

Anyway, suggestions are welcome and I may be needing to pickup a better cooler . Thanks for all the help so far though!


That is a good VID. The lower the better. That means that your chip requires a relatively low voltage to operate at stock speeds. This means you have more room to push between stock and 1.5v.



If I were you, I would make sure your ram timings are manual and set them up relatively high, so you are not stressing them. Give them an extra .1 over what they are rated at. That will make ensure that your ram is not what is holding you back.


Test again after making sure it isn't the ram that is crashing you. Were you running small FFT? Small FFT is all we will deal with for now, as that is what will stress your CPU.



If you are crashing during small FFT, you need to increase voltage to your CPU. 1.5v in BIOS is SAFE. So, don't worry about anything below 1.4. I suggest you put it up to 1.4 or as much as 1.45 and then run the test. Get it stable and then try turning down the voltage one step at a time if the high voltage makes you uncomfortable.



Open your case if you are getting a little too warm.Small FFT really stresses the CPU, so if you are 60-65c on Small FFT, you will likely never get your cores that hot with anything else. So don't worry if your cores get a little warm during small fft.


Give the CPU some juice and get back to me. That is most likely why you are unstable.



What is your vcore when you are doing small fft? run CPU-Z while you run prime and see what the voltage is under load. If it droops too much, you will crash.



Good luck. Get back to me.
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I took forever to figure out the whole calibration thing on Speed fan but i think I have it. Im using the same settings as before with the exception of increased CPU voltage to around 1.32V (Didnt write down the exact#) and I lowered the fsb to 370. I have been able to run prime without immediately crashing the computer so far but the temperatures are right at @ 59C.

Just as I am typing this, my worker thread #2 has stopped due to a rounding error. So im not sure what that means.

Also, according to Core temp, my VID is 1.2750V. Again im not quite sure what that tells me, but I know that this is the same value for the default vcore in the bios.

Anyway, suggestions are welcome and I may be needing to pickup a better cooler . Thanks for all the help so far though!
I've talked about alternative coolers in my previous post. The Xigmatek is not as expensive as the other high end ones, but perform almost as well as them.
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An error in Prime means that your CPU isn't getting enough juice to run the intensive program. Bump it up a notch or two and try again.

Running prime for an hour or two without errors is a good sign your ready to move on to bumping up the FSB a little bit more. You can fully stabilize your OC when you achieve you desired speed.
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Ive been letting it run for around 20 mins and then stepping it down to lower voltages. I have not had any errors yet. Im going to bump it down again and let it run all night to make sure its stable.

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370 FSB x9

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