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Hello all

well i have had this board for a while and i have to say that its a good board but i need some knowledge regarding overclocking and RAM

now i have 4 1gb sticks @667mhz (that PC5400 i think) so anyway i have a E6400 which i am able to OC to 3.2ghz easily and the RAM is at 800mhz. the question i want to ask is there some way that i can keep the RAM at 800mhz and push the CPU higher. I ask cause i'm sure that i cant push any further due to the RAM and im not sure how to hold it at its own freq. i have seen that its best to keep it at a 1:1 ratio but (a) can you run it at some other ratio (b) and if you can run it at something besides 1:1 does it make a noticeable difference

so if some of what i say seems a bit off, i'm relitively new to OC'ing but im want to learn

thanks
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Hello all

well i have had this board for a while and i have to say that its a good board but i need some knowledge regarding overclocking and RAM

now i have 4 1gb sticks @667mhz (that PC5400 i think) so anyway i have a E6400 which i am able to OC to 3.2ghz easily and the RAM is at 800mhz. the question i want to ask is there some way that i can keep the RAM at 800mhz and push the CPU higher. I ask cause i'm sure that i cant push any further due to the RAM and im not sure how to hold it at its own freq. i have seen that its best to keep it at a 1:1 ratio but (a) can you run it at some other ratio (b) and if you can run it at something besides 1:1 does it make a noticeable difference

so if some of what i say seems a bit off, i'm relitively new to OC'ing but im want to learn

thanks
1:1 is about the best you can get with this board. There are supposed to be advantages to running the RAM using a 1:1 ratio.

If you want to push your CPU further, run the RAM with a 1:1 ratio. Otherwise, you can have really loose RAM timings and max out the RAM as much as possible while pushing your CPU or you can go out and get 1066Mhz sticks (you get much more headroom with 1066 RAM).

I think you could be able to push your CPU more if you run a 1:1 ratio (RAM multiplier of 2) and use 5-5-5-15 timings for your RAM.
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I am guessing you are running 400fsb x 8 multi for 3.2. That means you already have your ram running at the 1:1 divider and overclocked to 800mhz. Unfortunately the 1:1 ratio (2 in bios) is the lowest you can go. You would need to get faster ram unless you can overclock your ram some more if you want to keep going up on the CPU. But I am thinking 3.2 is pretty good for a 6400.
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I am guessing you are running 400fsb x 8 multi for 3.2. That means you already have your ram running at the 1:1 divider and overclocked to 800mhz. Unfortunately the 1:1 ratio (2 in bios) is the lowest you can go. You would need to get faster ram unless you can overclock your ram some more if you want to keep going up on the CPU. But I am thinking 3.2 is pretty good for a 6400.
well i have gotten my CPU to 3.4ghz with RAM @ 850mhz with 5-5-5-15 timings. it has booted and seems fine but i have to run some stability tests to see if it will hold.

thanks for the info guys. will post back with results
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I just built my roomates dad a new system and of course i used a DS3L in the build. I put a E8300 on the board and proceeded with the Vista install and everthing went ok. I figured that installing the latest bios would be a good idea since the original bios was out before the E8X00's came out. With the original F7 bios, the cpu clock was correct at 2.66 Ghz. With the latest F8x bios installed now there is a line in the bios that says something like fine cpu adjust or something like that and it is set to .5 and not adjustable. Now the cpu clock reads 2.83 Ghz(333*8.5) in the bios, but in vista it only reads 2.66. I dont have this line in my bios with the E6550 and im curious what its for and why windows doesnt seem to recognize it.
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I just built my roomates dad a new system and of course i used a DS3L in the build. I put a E8300 on the board and proceeded with the Vista install and everthing went ok. I figured that installing the latest bios would be a good idea since the original bios was out before the E8X00's came out. With the original F7 bios, the cpu clock was correct at 2.66 Ghz. With the latest F8x bios installed now there is a line in the bios that says something like fine cpu adjust or something like that and it is set to .5 and not adjustable. Now the cpu clock reads 2.83 Ghz(333*8.5) in the bios, but in vista it only reads 2.66. I dont have this line in my bios with the E6550 and im curious what its for and why windows doesnt seem to recognize it.
That option is there because of the E8300 having a half multiplier (8.5). You might have to update CPU-Z or whatever program you're using to see it. The BIOS should be right though.

The E6550 doesn't have half multipliers, or at least I think they don't. That's why you don't see that BIOS option with the CPU.
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omg i was looking through the newegg reviews of this board and they said this
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Great Board for a great price


Pros: Used this MOBO for my new rig and I love it. The price of this board is nice and it is a pretty nice budget board that has some nice OC potential. There are a lot of options in the BIOs and if you want to OC you got to remember not to install the DES when you load the cd that came with the board.

Cons: If you don't read clearly you might accidentally install the DES software and then you will have some trouble OCing. Just remember to read carefully after you put in the dvd that came with the MOBO
I want smooth overclocks whats this DES stuff ?? is this something you install through windows ? is it a BIOS driver or what?

I need to know because im having a custom computer built for me with this motherboard and i need to know wheather or not to tell the company to not install this DES thingy
THANKS
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i seriously need help.. y cant i flash my bios!???
    
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i seriously need help.. y cant i flash my bios!???
Get a external floppy or borrow one from a friend or something. It looks like your operating system is not stable for some reason. Or as Rpg2 mentioned your ram could be the problem. Do a memtest on your ram. IMHO using Q-Flash is the easiest way to flash the mobo bios.
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omg i was looking through the newegg reviews of this board and they said this


I want smooth overclocks whats this DES stuff ?? is this something you install through windows ? is it a BIOS driver or what?

I need to know because im having a custom computer built for me with this motherboard and i need to know wheather or not to tell the company to not install this DES thingy
THANKS
That's the Dynamic Energy Saver feature. It comes with the EP35-DS3L, not the regular P35-DS3L. It's the E before the P35 part that will tell you if it comes with DES.

If you install DES, there will be a problem with trying to change CPU voltage. The CPU voltage stays at stock no matter what with DES. If you don't install it, you should be fine. That is if you plan to get the EP35-DS3L.

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i seriously need help.. y cant i flash my bios!???
Use the @BIOS program that came with the mobo driver CD. That's the one I've been using the entire time since I got my mobo, worked great for 4-5 flashes so far. Nothing has gone wrong.
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