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Well, I take off on a trip for several weeks and get back into town. After all that time my system needed the various MS updates and what not..reboots a few times during installation and settles down. I fire up my monitoring software and behold..all my settings are back to normal. 333x9@3g's. Not sure if it was an update or what..Non-Conclusive.

See page 318 for original problem.
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Hey all. I bought the D3Sl Rev 2 to replace my Asrock 4CoreDual-Sata R2.0. It was a good mobo, but overclocking was virtually non-existent as the bios reported almost no detailed information. I kept hearing about how good the D3SL was for overclocking so I bought it a few weeks ago. Firstly, system specs are in my sig.

Ok, so I got the E4300 and stock HSF. I applied AS5 and I'm sure I installed the HSF properly. However temperatures are way too high for my liking. My P4 Prescott ran cooler it seems. The thing is I dont know what to believe as I keep reading things about how Coretemp and Realtemp and TAT and Speedfan etc all give different readings over Tjunction and TJMax values etc. Core temp right now says I'm at 46c idle, and this is in an air conditioned room. I've OC'd the E4300 to 2.4ghz (9x266). I entered FSB manually, changed SPD to 2.0, disabled the Turbo boost stuff etc. Everything else, RAM timings and Voltages I've left to auto (more on that later).

I was playing Crysis for a few hours straight last night, and had no ill effects. no BSODs or reboots etc at 2.4ghz. I've yet to run Orthos for an extended amount of time though. I'm at 2.4 right now. It seems fine but temps are really bothering me. The thing that gets me is why is it so hard to get accurate readings? Coretemp tells me its 46c. RealTemp says its 32c. HWMonitor tells me its 47c. BIOS tells me its 31c. Who do I believe and which is the more accurate?

Here is a screenshot of what it was like under 2.7ghz. 80c load! Yet the system didnt BSOD or reboot itself while I ran it (maybe if I ran it for much longer it might but Im afraid to). This cant be right is it?


As for OCing, the system will not post beyond 2.7ghz it seems. I just use auto mode for voltages and ram timings because everytime I try to enter it manually my PC will either not post, or Orthos will fail immediately after it starts. If I leave ram timings and voltages to auto, and just put in SPD 2.0 and adjust FSB the system appears normal. So either I'm just not doing things right when I manually enter voltages and timings (which confuse the hell out of me), or my E4300 just doesnt like to go above 2.7ghz, so no easy 3.0ghz overclock for me.

My concern is if its ok to use Auto settings under voltages and ram? Is there any reason not do? I've read its better to manually do it because auto might use more voltages than it needs. But its easier to do and appears to make my system stable. I swear if I enter manually what I think Auto mode is doing, it will break. Set it to Auto and its fine. I've tried adjust vcore manually. Started at stock, and bumped it up in default increments in BIOS. But Orthos would always fail after it started the test. No need to run it overnight, it'll fail within a few seconds usually. I did this all the way up to 1.4v but no real change in stability. Setting it to auto for vcore and NB/SB/RAM and it seems stable.

Another thing thats annoying me is Vcore readings. Just like temps, its totally unreliable and I cant believe anything. I don't know what the D3SL sets VCore in auto mode as it doesn't say, but under CPUZ it fluctuates from 1.376 to 1.397. HWMonitor lists it at 1.38v. CoreTemp says 1.325. Again, what do I believe? And whats the safest for the E4300?

Probably a long shot but if anyone has an E4300 and my exact ram in their system, can you please tell me what you're OC is and how you got it? I'm starting to think I should have just saved the money and gotten a fast C2D from the start and forget this OCing stuff because its just costing me more and more money. I'm not spending more on a new HSF, or replacing my perfectly working Ram etc. I would be happy with 2.7ghz if thats the limit, but I just wish I could trust temp readings. The D3SL is great overall, even if I get crappy overclocks it supports 45nm CPUs, has full PCIe 16x and 8gb max (my Asrock 4core was nice but it was a stop gap upgrade, 2gb max mem, cant support 45nm, and PCI was x4 mode). But if I could get 2.7ghz (or even 2.8 if possible) and be assured temps arent melting my system I'd be very happy.

This is a long thread so I've read as much as I can and still got a way to go, but any tips would be appreciated thanks!
post #3263 of 4644
First of all buy yourself a aftermarket cpu cooler. The dinky stock Intel cpu cooler isn't gonna cut it as far as cpu temps are concerned. You'll get better cpu temps than the ones you have now. It would be helpful to post your overclock settings then other members can assist you as to what changes need to be made to get stable settings.

The OCZ Vendetta 2 and Xigmatec 1283 cpu coolers are popular if you're looking for a inexpensive cpu cooler. Purchase the retention bolt for both of those cpu coolers. Thermalright True is another good cpu cooler but it's much more expensive. I strongly suggest you buy a aftermarket cpu cooler for your E4300.

OCZ Vendetta 2, $44.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835202007

Xigmatec 1283, #34.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835233003

XIGMATEK ACK-I7751 Retention Bracket, $6.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835233019

I believe the retention bracket can also be used with the OCZ Vendetta 2.

Thermalright TRue Black-120 Extreme Heatpipe CPU Cooler, $67.99
http://www.petrastechshop.com/thtrblexhecp.html

Thermalright LGA775 Bolt-Thru Kit, $7.95
http://www.petrastechshop.com/thlgbo.html
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I just want to get an opinion from some of you.

While I am running prime, I am getting the windows blue screen which probably means that my overclock is not happy.

I have a Q6600 G0 currently overclocked to 3.4ghz and at 907 mhz of memory and these settings have been pretty stable to this point. My 3dmark06 score is 14,000 with a regular 8800 nvidia gt card.

My settings

fsb rated at 378 x 9 multiplier
Ram divider at 2.4 = 907 memory (pc 6400 800mhz)

Latency readings are as follow

5
5
5
12

For the latency I have not changed the factory settings.


I get a blue screen in vista when I overclock to 400fsb x 9 multiplyer.
This could be due to the fact that my memory goes up to 960mhz.

A few things to know, my vcore reading in cpu-z is not set to the same
as I manually set in the bios. I set it up to v1.38 for 379 fsb and things
have been stabled but in cpu-z it shows at 1.32 during full load.

I want to achieve at least 3.6ghz.


Current temperatures

LOAD 50c

core 1 average 59
core 2 average 60
core 3 average 60
core 4 average 59
post #3265 of 4644
Before I spend more money on a new HSF, I want to know why its running hot (if it really is that is) with stock. I'm getting 44-46c on stock speeds and 60c+ under load. The HSF is installed properly that I know. Perhaps the HSF is damaged who knows. But when I keep reading other ppl getting much much cooler temps with their OC'd E4300s on stock thats what confuses me. I will not spend a dime on a new HSF and find out the temps wont change that much. Either the stock solution is fine and these program temps simply misreport the readings, or the temps are correct and the HSF is fubar. I'd just like to know which is which.

As for my OC settings:

C1E: disabled
TM2: disabled
EIST: disabled

FSB: 266 (2.4ghz)
SPD: 2.0 (800/533 as listed in BIOS)
PCIE: 100mhz
CIA: disabled
Performance Enhancement: standard
RAM: 5-5-5-18 (auto)

Ram timings and Voltages are set to auto.
post #3266 of 4644
Is this thread for users of the EP35 version of this board as well?
post #3267 of 4644
Quote:
Originally Posted by Biovital View Post
Before I spend more money on a new HSF, I want to know why its running hot (if it really is that is) with stock. I'm getting 44-46c on stock speeds and 60c+ under load. The HSF is installed properly that I know. Perhaps the HSF is damaged who knows. But when I keep reading other ppl getting much much cooler temps with their OC'd E4300s on stock thats what confuses me. I will not spend a dime on a new HSF and find out the temps wont change that much. Either the stock solution is fine and these program temps simply misreport the readings, or the temps are correct and the HSF is fubar. I'd just like to know which is which.

As for my OC settings:

C1E: disabled
TM2: disabled
EIST: disabled

FSB: 266 (2.4ghz)
SPD: 2.0 (800/533 as listed in BIOS)
PCIE: 100mhz
CIA: disabled
Performance Enhancement: standard
RAM: 5-5-5-18 (auto)

Ram timings and Voltages are set to auto.
Your ram timings need to set to manual. Within the mobo bios need to hit ctrl f1 to access the advance memory timing options.
Set the System Memory Multiplier (spd) - set to 2.0 divider
DDR2 OverVoltage Control - +0.2

Everything else you posted is fine. Try those settings to see if it will be stable. You may have to up your vcore if you wanna overclock at a faster speed.

As for your heat problem the cpu may need to be reseated. Use MX-2 thermal paste instead of Artic Silver 5. I believe the Artic Silver 5 has a cure time where the MX-2 doesn't.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by q6600supaman5000 View Post
I just want to get an opinion from some of you.

While I am running prime, I am getting the windows blue screen which probably means that my overclock is not happy.

I have a Q6600 G0 currently overclocked to 3.4ghz and at 907 mhz of memory and these settings have been pretty stable to this point. My 3dmark06 score is 14,000 with a regular 8800 nvidia gt card.

My settings

fsb rated at 378 x 9 multiplier
Ram divider at 2.4 = 907 memory (pc 6400 800mhz)

Latency readings are as follow

5
5
5
12

For the latency I have not changed the factory settings.


I get a blue screen in vista when I overclock to 400fsb x 9 multiplyer.
This could be due to the fact that my memory goes up to 960mhz.

A few things to know, my vcore reading in cpu-z is not set to the same
as I manually set in the bios. I set it up to v1.38 for 379 fsb and things
have been stabled but in cpu-z it shows at 1.32 during full load.

I want to achieve at least 3.6ghz.


Current temperatures

LOAD 50c

core 1 average 59
core 2 average 60
core 3 average 60
core 4 average 59
Could be a number of things, Memory timings maybe to fast/Mvolts too low for you RAM, Vcore maybe to low for your CPU. Trial and error, you know the routine.
Can you list your RAM type(Corsair/OCZ)/cooling solution(Not Stk?) and bios specs/boards spec in general(DS3L?). As for the drop in ur vcore, that's normal for the software to read that way.
Edited by Pipeline - 9/1/08 at 8:08pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jehan View Post
Is this thread for users of the EP35 version of this board as well?
I think so. The 2 boards are the same, just the ep35 comes with "energy saving" software. The only other difference I can think of is that they have different bioses, but have the same features.
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hey all

i was just wondering about the Virtualization option in the BOIS. Now i got an E8600 and i was having a look at the advance options section in BIOS (where the Virtualization option is supposed to be) and it does not seem to be there (even tried the CTRL+F1 thing). now i was wondering how i can tell if the option is on or not.

Thanks
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